[HamGatePA] ***SPAM*** Re: Mitigating Possible Changes to 44Net
Leon Zetekoff
wa4zlw at backwoodswireless.net
Wed Aug 9 13:22:40 EDT 2023
I updated my devices with the new allocation that is assigned in the portal.
It's working now but as I have seen before the script gets stuck on some
IPs becuz of an issue at the remote end.
I'm a fan of the sunshine law....I think ARDC needs to be more open.
73 leon
On 8/9/2023 12:34 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> You changed routable subnet and simply expected it to work over the
> VPN? That will not work.
>
> So let me get this straight. Someone has a new allocation. They
> connect to the local VPN and then expect that allocatipn to work?
>
> Not gonna happen. How do i know how to route to your new subnet? Who
> notified me of the routing additions required? Who made the changes
> required to the mesh?
>
> This is all forgotten in the FEF plan. It's flawed for these reasons
> alone.
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023, 12:14 Charles J. Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:
>
> OK. Let me put a VERY fine point on this situation with your new
> 44Net allocation:
>
> - I am not the coordinator for 44.63.x.x, but G1FEF is the coordinator
> - I do not know his logic or planned use of that address space
> - The eleven states and HamGates that I coordinate are different
> subnets
>
> Unless things are openly discussed by ARDC staff, the various
> local 44Net
> coordinators and affected user population of all subnets, then I
> can not
> confidently solve problems in an address space that I am not
> controlling
> and working with. I would not want to mess up another's area of
> responsibility.
>
> On 8/9/2023 12:04 PM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> > ok I'm working but 44.94.17.129 has a problem at his end
> >
> > D:\Old Drive C>tracert n2nov.ampr.org <http://n2nov.ampr.org>
> >
> > Tracing route to n2nov.ampr.org <http://n2nov.ampr.org> [44.68.41.1]
> > over a maximum of 30 hops:
> >
> > 1 3 ms 5 ms 2 ms t40.wa4zlw.org
> <http://t40.wa4zlw.org> [10.195.10.3]
> > 2 4 ms 3 ms 2 ms core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org
> <http://core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org> [44.63.18.113]
> > 3 45 ms 45 ms 44 ms gw.n2nov.ampr.org
> <http://gw.n2nov.ampr.org> [44.68.41.2]
> > 4 50 ms 46 ms 44 ms n2nov.ampr.org
> <http://n2nov.ampr.org> [44.68.41.1]
> >
> > Trace complete.
> >
> > D:\Old Drive C>
> >
> > 73 leon
> >
> > On 8/9/2023 11:20 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>
> >> here's what I'm seeing in the MTK
> >>
> >> 73 leon
> >>
> >> On 8/9/2023 11:18 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>> Hi Charles...I changed my Mikrotik over to the new allocation
> >>> yesterday but something is not working. I asked chris about my
> >>> original allocation and he said I can't have it back since
> they are
> >>> doing this new stuff. He allocated the new block to me yesterday.
> >>>
> >>> If you want to get on an email thread with him or whatever you
> want
> >>> to do please let me know.
> >>>
> >>> Just don't need this hassle of things not working.
> >>>
> >>> 73 leon
> >>>
> >>> On 8/9/2023 9:16 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> >>>> The VPN data for your Mikrotik will not work with your state
> Hamgate
> >>>> unless your allocation matches the state (44.56.xxx.xxx).
> Since your
> >>>> new
> >>>> allocation of 44.63.18.112/28 <http://44.63.18.112/28> was
> issued by someone else, you would
> >>>> need
> >>>> to put in a new request to switch back to your old allocation.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/9/2023 9:08 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>>>> hi charles....well I am on the new allocation but the mikrotik
> >>>>> script is not working right so I reached out to marius.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All this happened yesterday. IMHO big deal if you don't hit the
> >>>>> portal in a year. do ISPs shut you down only if you dont pay
> your
> >>>>> bill :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73 leon
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:41 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> >>>>>> That cancellation was done at the ARDC level in one of
> their purges.
> >>>>>> I can reissue your old subnet and get you going from there.
> Just
> >>>>>> let me
> >>>>>> know as you are putting in your request so that I can
> approve it
> >>>>>> immediately.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:31 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Charles! I just went through this because I missed the
> >>>>>>> messages that I needed to get into the portal once a year and
> >>>>>>> then finally I was turned off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I lost my original 44.56.53.1/28 <http://44.56.53.1/28>
> and now have 44.63.18.112/28 <http://44.63.18.112/28>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trying to get things back up and running is a PITA.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 73 leon wa4zlw
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/8/2023 11:03 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> >>>>>>>> There seems to be a push by the technical committee of
> ARDC to
> >>>>>>>> form the
> >>>>>>>> 44Net address space along perceived use rather by
> >>>>>>>> area/region/state use.
> >>>>>>>> The plans are to be "finalized" by the end of the year,
> although
> >>>>>>>> some new
> >>>>>>>> procedures are already being carried out which has caused
> >>>>>>>> problems for new
> >>>>>>>> users in our network and area.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For the foreseeable future, pass the word with any
> forwarding
> >>>>>>>> partners,
> >>>>>>>> new users and local clubs to NOT file for an allocation
> on the
> >>>>>>>> 44Net portal,
> >>>>>>>> but instead contact me directly at n2nov at n2nov.net for a
> >>>>>>>> conversation
> >>>>>>>> and I can walk them through it in real time so that it
> can not
> >>>>>>>> be short
> >>>>>>>> circuited in the process. The state hamgates for Maryland
> and
> >>>>>>>> Delaware
> >>>>>>>> just went live this weekend, complete with a central bbs for
> >>>>>>>> message
> >>>>>>>> forwarding and Wireguard VPN servers for anyone to make
> use of.
> >>>>>>>> The past
> >>>>>>>> 18 months have been rolling along for increasing
> connectivity
> >>>>>>>> and usefulness.
> >>>>>>>> Let's see what we can do to keep it that way and to improve
> >>>>>>>> functionality.
>
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
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