[HamGatePA] ***SPAM*** Re: Mitigating Possible Changes to 44Net

Leon Zetekoff wa4zlw at backwoodswireless.net
Wed Aug 9 13:22:40 EDT 2023


I updated my devices with the new allocation that is assigned in the portal.

It's working now but as I have seen before the script gets stuck on some 
IPs becuz of an issue at the remote end.

I'm a fan of the sunshine law....I think ARDC needs to be more open.

73 leon

On 8/9/2023 12:34 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> You changed routable subnet and simply expected it to work over the 
> VPN? That will not work.
>
> So let me get this straight.  Someone has a new allocation. They 
> connect to the local VPN and then expect that allocatipn to work?
>
> Not gonna happen. How do i know how to route to your new subnet? Who 
> notified me of the routing additions required? Who made the changes 
> required to the mesh?
>
> This is all forgotten in the FEF plan. It's flawed for these reasons 
> alone.
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023, 12:14 Charles J. Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:
>
>     OK. Let me put a VERY fine point on this situation with your new
>     44Net allocation:
>
>     - I am not the coordinator for 44.63.x.x, but G1FEF is the coordinator
>     - I do not know his logic or planned use of that address space
>     - The eleven states and HamGates that I coordinate are different
>     subnets
>
>     Unless things are openly discussed by ARDC staff, the various
>     local 44Net
>     coordinators and affected user population of all subnets, then I
>     can not
>     confidently solve problems in an address space that I am not
>     controlling
>     and working with. I would not want to mess up another's area of
>     responsibility.
>
>     On 8/9/2023 12:04 PM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>     > ok I'm working but 44.94.17.129 has a problem at his end
>     >
>     > D:\Old Drive C>tracert n2nov.ampr.org <http://n2nov.ampr.org>
>     >
>     > Tracing route to n2nov.ampr.org <http://n2nov.ampr.org> [44.68.41.1]
>     > over a maximum of 30 hops:
>     >
>     >    1     3 ms     5 ms     2 ms t40.wa4zlw.org
>     <http://t40.wa4zlw.org> [10.195.10.3]
>     >    2     4 ms     3 ms     2 ms core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org
>     <http://core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org> [44.63.18.113]
>     >    3    45 ms    45 ms    44 ms gw.n2nov.ampr.org
>     <http://gw.n2nov.ampr.org> [44.68.41.2]
>     >    4    50 ms    46 ms    44 ms n2nov.ampr.org
>     <http://n2nov.ampr.org> [44.68.41.1]
>     >
>     > Trace complete.
>     >
>     > D:\Old Drive C>
>     >
>     > 73 leon
>     >
>     > On 8/9/2023 11:20 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>     >>
>     >> here's what I'm seeing in the MTK
>     >>
>     >> 73 leon
>     >>
>     >> On 8/9/2023 11:18 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>     >>> Hi Charles...I changed my Mikrotik over to the new allocation
>     >>> yesterday but something is not working. I asked chris about my
>     >>> original allocation and he said I can't have it back since
>     they are
>     >>> doing this new stuff. He allocated the new block to me yesterday.
>     >>>
>     >>> If you want to get on an email thread with him or whatever you
>     want
>     >>> to do please let me know.
>     >>>
>     >>> Just don't need this hassle of things not working.
>     >>>
>     >>> 73 leon
>     >>>
>     >>> On 8/9/2023 9:16 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>     >>>> The VPN data for your Mikrotik will not work with your state
>     Hamgate
>     >>>> unless your allocation matches the state (44.56.xxx.xxx).
>     Since your
>     >>>> new
>     >>>> allocation of 44.63.18.112/28 <http://44.63.18.112/28> was
>     issued by someone else, you would
>     >>>> need
>     >>>> to put in a new request to switch back to your old allocation.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 8/9/2023 9:08 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>     >>>>> hi charles....well I am on the new allocation but the mikrotik
>     >>>>> script is not working right so I reached out to marius.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> All this happened yesterday. IMHO big deal if you don't hit the
>     >>>>> portal in a year. do ISPs shut you down only if you dont pay
>     your
>     >>>>> bill :-)
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> 73 leon
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:41 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>     >>>>>> That cancellation was done at the ARDC level in one of
>     their purges.
>     >>>>>> I can reissue your old subnet and get you going from there.
>     Just
>     >>>>>> let me
>     >>>>>> know as you are putting in your request so that I can
>     approve it
>     >>>>>> immediately.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:31 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>     >>>>>>> Hi Charles! I just went through this because I missed the
>     >>>>>>> messages that I needed to get into the portal once a year and
>     >>>>>>> then finally I was turned off.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> So I lost my original 44.56.53.1/28 <http://44.56.53.1/28>
>     and now have 44.63.18.112/28 <http://44.63.18.112/28>
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Trying to get things back up and running is a PITA.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> 73 leon wa4zlw
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> On 8/8/2023 11:03 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>     >>>>>>>> There seems to be a push by the technical committee of
>     ARDC to
>     >>>>>>>> form the
>     >>>>>>>> 44Net address space along perceived use rather by
>     >>>>>>>> area/region/state use.
>     >>>>>>>> The plans are to be "finalized" by the end of the year,
>     although
>     >>>>>>>> some new
>     >>>>>>>> procedures are already being carried out which has caused
>     >>>>>>>> problems for new
>     >>>>>>>> users in our network and area.
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> For the foreseeable future, pass the word with any
>     forwarding
>     >>>>>>>> partners,
>     >>>>>>>> new users and local clubs to NOT file for an allocation
>     on the
>     >>>>>>>> 44Net portal,
>     >>>>>>>> but instead contact me directly at n2nov at n2nov.net for a
>     >>>>>>>> conversation
>     >>>>>>>> and I can walk them through it in real time so that it
>     can not
>     >>>>>>>> be short
>     >>>>>>>> circuited in the process. The state hamgates for Maryland
>     and
>     >>>>>>>> Delaware
>     >>>>>>>> just went live this weekend, complete with a central bbs for
>     >>>>>>>> message
>     >>>>>>>> forwarding and Wireguard VPN servers for anyone to make
>     use of.
>     >>>>>>>> The past
>     >>>>>>>> 18 months have been rolling along for increasing
>     connectivity
>     >>>>>>>> and usefulness.
>     >>>>>>>> Let's see what we can do to keep it that way and to improve
>     >>>>>>>> functionality.
>
>     -- 
>     Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
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