[HamGatePA] Mitigating Possible Changes to 44Net

[Leon Zetekoff]

Right understand...I wasn't presented an option...let me get chris' 
email....guess you are not in the loop, i guess noone is.

"Hi Leon,

I can assign you a new range, we are retiring the old regional 
assignments as they expire, in favour of a more efficient assignment 
policy based on use case.

Are these IPs for use on the IPIP Mesh? Or for standalone use?

Thanks,
Chris - G1FEF
—

ARDC Administrator"

73 leon

On 8/9/2023 12:14 PM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> OK. Let me put a VERY fine point on this situation with your new
> 44Net allocation:
>
> - I am not the coordinator for 44.63.x.x, but G1FEF is the coordinator
> - I do not know his logic or planned use of that address space
> - The eleven states and HamGates that I coordinate are different subnets
>
> Unless things are openly discussed by ARDC staff, the various local 44Net
> coordinators and affected user population of all subnets, then I can not
> confidently solve problems in an address space that I am not controlling
> and working with. I would not want to mess up another's area of 
> responsibility.
>
> On 8/9/2023 12:04 PM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>> ok I'm working but 44.94.17.129 has a problem at his end
>>
>> D:\Old Drive C>tracert n2nov.ampr.org
>>
>> Tracing route to n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1]
>> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>
>>    1     3 ms     5 ms     2 ms  t40.wa4zlw.org [10.195.10.3]
>>    2     4 ms     3 ms     2 ms  core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org [44.63.18.113]
>>    3    45 ms    45 ms    44 ms  gw.n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.2]
>>    4    50 ms    46 ms    44 ms  n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1]
>>
>> Trace complete.
>>
>> D:\Old Drive C>
>>
>> 73 leon
>>
>> On 8/9/2023 11:20 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>>
>>> here's what I'm seeing in the MTK
>>>
>>> 73 leon
>>>
>>> On 8/9/2023 11:18 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>>> Hi Charles...I changed my Mikrotik over to the new allocation 
>>>> yesterday but something is not working. I asked chris about my 
>>>> original allocation and he said I can't have it back since they are 
>>>> doing this new stuff. He allocated the new block to me yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to get on an email thread with him or whatever you want 
>>>> to do please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Just don't need this hassle of things not working.
>>>>
>>>> 73 leon
>>>>
>>>> On 8/9/2023 9:16 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>>>>> The VPN data for your Mikrotik will not work with your state Hamgate
>>>>> unless your allocation matches the state (44.56.xxx.xxx). Since 
>>>>> your new
>>>>> allocation of 44.63.18.112/28 was issued by someone else, you 
>>>>> would need
>>>>> to put in a new request to switch back to your old allocation.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/9/2023 9:08 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>>>>> hi charles....well I am on the new allocation but the mikrotik 
>>>>>> script is not working right so I reached out to marius.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All this happened yesterday. IMHO big deal if you don't hit the 
>>>>>> portal in a year. do ISPs shut you down only if you dont pay your 
>>>>>> bill :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 leon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:41 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>>>>>>> That cancellation was done at the ARDC level in one of their 
>>>>>>> purges.
>>>>>>> I can reissue your old subnet and get you going from there. Just 
>>>>>>> let me
>>>>>>> know as you are putting in your request so that I can approve it 
>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:31 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Charles! I just went through this because I missed the 
>>>>>>>> messages that I needed to get into the portal once a year and 
>>>>>>>> then finally I was turned off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I lost my original 44.56.53.1/28 and now have 44.63.18.112/28
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trying to get things back up and running is a PITA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73 leon wa4zlw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/8/2023 11:03 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There seems to be a push by the technical committee of ARDC to 
>>>>>>>>> form the
>>>>>>>>> 44Net address space along perceived use rather by 
>>>>>>>>> area/region/state use.
>>>>>>>>> The plans are to be "finalized" by the end of the year, 
>>>>>>>>> although some new
>>>>>>>>> procedures are already being carried out which has caused 
>>>>>>>>> problems for new
>>>>>>>>> users in our network and area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the foreseeable future, pass the word with any forwarding 
>>>>>>>>> partners,
>>>>>>>>> new users and local clubs to NOT file for an allocation on the 
>>>>>>>>> 44Net portal,
>>>>>>>>> but instead contact me directly at n2nov at n2nov.net for a 
>>>>>>>>> conversation
>>>>>>>>> and I can walk them through it in real time so that it can not 
>>>>>>>>> be short
>>>>>>>>> circuited in the process. The state hamgates for Maryland and 
>>>>>>>>> Delaware
>>>>>>>>> just went live this weekend, complete with a central bbs for 
>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>> forwarding and Wireguard VPN servers for anyone to make use 
>>>>>>>>> of. The past
>>>>>>>>> 18 months have been rolling along for increasing connectivity 
>>>>>>>>> and usefulness.
>>>>>>>>> Let's see what we can do to keep it that way and to improve 
>>>>>>>>> functionality.
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