[HamGatePA] Mitigating Possible Changes to 44Net

Wed Aug 9 15:43:06 EDT 2023

"policy"  What policy? Where is that "policy" published?

On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 1:22 PM Leon Zetekoff <wa4zlw at backwoodswireless.net>
wrote:

> Right understand...I wasn't presented an option...let me get chris'
> email....guess you are not in the loop, i guess noone is.
>
> "Hi Leon,
>
> I can assign you a new range, we are retiring the old regional
> assignments as they expire, in favour of a more efficient assignment
> policy based on use case.
>
> Are these IPs for use on the IPIP Mesh? Or for standalone use?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris - G1FEF
> —
>
> ARDC Administrator"
>
> 73 leon
>
> On 8/9/2023 12:14 PM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> > OK. Let me put a VERY fine point on this situation with your new
> > 44Net allocation:
> >
> > - I am not the coordinator for 44.63.x.x, but G1FEF is the coordinator
> > - I do not know his logic or planned use of that address space
> > - The eleven states and HamGates that I coordinate are different subnets
> >
> > Unless things are openly discussed by ARDC staff, the various local 44Net
> > coordinators and affected user population of all subnets, then I can not
> > confidently solve problems in an address space that I am not controlling
> > and working with. I would not want to mess up another's area of
> > responsibility.
> >
> > On 8/9/2023 12:04 PM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >> ok I'm working but 44.94.17.129 has a problem at his end
> >>
> >> D:\Old Drive C>tracert n2nov.ampr.org
> >>
> >> Tracing route to n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1]
> >> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> >>
> >>    1     3 ms     5 ms     2 ms  t40.wa4zlw.org [10.195.10.3]
> >>    2     4 ms     3 ms     2 ms  core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org [44.63.18.113]
> >>    3    45 ms    45 ms    44 ms  gw.n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.2]
> >>    4    50 ms    46 ms    44 ms  n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1]
> >>
> >> Trace complete.
> >>
> >> D:\Old Drive C>
> >>
> >> 73 leon
> >>
> >> On 8/9/2023 11:20 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>>
> >>> here's what I'm seeing in the MTK
> >>>
> >>> 73 leon
> >>>
> >>> On 8/9/2023 11:18 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>>> Hi Charles...I changed my Mikrotik over to the new allocation
> >>>> yesterday but something is not working. I asked chris about my
> >>>> original allocation and he said I can't have it back since they are
> >>>> doing this new stuff. He allocated the new block to me yesterday.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to get on an email thread with him or whatever you want
> >>>> to do please let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just don't need this hassle of things not working.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 leon
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/9/2023 9:16 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> >>>>> The VPN data for your Mikrotik will not work with your state Hamgate
> >>>>> unless your allocation matches the state (44.56.xxx.xxx). Since
> >>>>> your new
> >>>>> allocation of 44.63.18.112/28 was issued by someone else, you
> >>>>> would need
> >>>>> to put in a new request to switch back to your old allocation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/9/2023 9:08 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>>>>> hi charles....well I am on the new allocation but the mikrotik
> >>>>>> script is not working right so I reached out to marius.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All this happened yesterday. IMHO big deal if you don't hit the
> >>>>>> portal in a year. do ISPs shut you down only if you dont pay your
> >>>>>> bill :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 73 leon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:41 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> >>>>>>> That cancellation was done at the ARDC level in one of their
> >>>>>>> purges.
> >>>>>>> I can reissue your old subnet and get you going from there. Just
> >>>>>>> let me
> >>>>>>> know as you are putting in your request so that I can approve it
> >>>>>>> immediately.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:31 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Charles! I just went through this because I missed the
> >>>>>>>> messages that I needed to get into the portal once a year and
> >>>>>>>> then finally I was turned off.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I lost my original 44.56.53.1/28 and now have 44.63.18.112/28
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Trying to get things back up and running is a PITA.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 73 leon wa4zlw
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 8/8/2023 11:03 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> There seems to be a push by the technical committee of ARDC to
> >>>>>>>>> form the
> >>>>>>>>> 44Net address space along perceived use rather by
> >>>>>>>>> area/region/state use.
> >>>>>>>>> The plans are to be "finalized" by the end of the year,
> >>>>>>>>> although some new
> >>>>>>>>> procedures are already being carried out which has caused
> >>>>>>>>> problems for new
> >>>>>>>>> users in our network and area.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For the foreseeable future, pass the word with any forwarding
> >>>>>>>>> partners,
> >>>>>>>>> new users and local clubs to NOT file for an allocation on the
> >>>>>>>>> 44Net portal,
> >>>>>>>>> but instead contact me directly at n2nov at n2nov.net for a
> >>>>>>>>> conversation
> >>>>>>>>> and I can walk them through it in real time so that it can not
> >>>>>>>>> be short
> >>>>>>>>> circuited in the process. The state hamgates for Maryland and
> >>>>>>>>> Delaware
> >>>>>>>>> just went live this weekend, complete with a central bbs for
> >>>>>>>>> message
> >>>>>>>>> forwarding and Wireguard VPN servers for anyone to make use
> >>>>>>>>> of. The past
> >>>>>>>>> 18 months have been rolling along for increasing connectivity
> >>>>>>>>> and usefulness.
> >>>>>>>>> Let's see what we can do to keep it that way and to improve
> >>>>>>>>> functionality.
> >
>
>
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