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<p>I updated my devices with the new allocation that is assigned in
the portal.</p>
<p>It's working now but as I have seen before the script gets stuck
on some IPs becuz of an issue at the remote end.</p>
<p>I'm a fan of the sunshine law....I think ARDC needs to be more
open.</p>
<p>73 leon<br>
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<div dir="auto">You changed routable subnet and simply expected
it to work over the VPN? That will not work.</div>
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So let me get this straight. Someone has a new allocation. They
connect to the local VPN and then expect that allocatipn to
work?
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<div dir="auto">Not gonna happen. How do i know how to route to
your new subnet? Who notified me of the routing additions
required? Who made the changes required to the mesh?</div>
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<div dir="auto">This is all forgotten in the FEF plan. It's
flawed for these reasons alone.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 9, 2023, 12:14
Charles J. Hargrove <<a href="mailto:n2nov@n2nov.net"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">n2nov@n2nov.net</a>>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">OK.
Let me put a VERY fine point on this situation with your new<br>
44Net allocation:<br>
<br>
- I am not the coordinator for 44.63.x.x, but G1FEF is the
coordinator<br>
- I do not know his logic or planned use of that address space<br>
- The eleven states and HamGates that I coordinate are
different subnets<br>
<br>
Unless things are openly discussed by ARDC staff, the various
local 44Net<br>
coordinators and affected user population of all subnets, then
I can not<br>
confidently solve problems in an address space that I am not
controlling<br>
and working with. I would not want to mess up another's area
of <br>
responsibility.<br>
<br>
On 8/9/2023 12:04 PM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:<br>
> ok I'm working but 44.94.17.129 has a problem at his end<br>
> <br>
> D:\Old Drive C>tracert <a
href="http://n2nov.ampr.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">n2nov.ampr.org</a><br>
> <br>
> Tracing route to <a href="http://n2nov.ampr.org"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">n2nov.ampr.org</a> [44.68.41.1]<br>
> over a maximum of 30 hops:<br>
> <br>
> 1 3 ms 5 ms 2 ms <a
href="http://t40.wa4zlw.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">t40.wa4zlw.org</a>
[10.195.10.3]<br>
> 2 4 ms 3 ms 2 ms <a
href="http://core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org</a>
[44.63.18.113]<br>
> 3 45 ms 45 ms 44 ms <a
href="http://gw.n2nov.ampr.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gw.n2nov.ampr.org</a>
[44.68.41.2]<br>
> 4 50 ms 46 ms 44 ms <a
href="http://n2nov.ampr.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">n2nov.ampr.org</a>
[44.68.41.1]<br>
> <br>
> Trace complete.<br>
> <br>
> D:\Old Drive C><br>
> <br>
> 73 leon<br>
> <br>
> On 8/9/2023 11:20 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> here's what I'm seeing in the MTK<br>
>><br>
>> 73 leon<br>
>><br>
>> On 8/9/2023 11:18 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Charles...I changed my Mikrotik over to the
new allocation <br>
>>> yesterday but something is not working. I asked
chris about my <br>
>>> original allocation and he said I can't have it
back since they are <br>
>>> doing this new stuff. He allocated the new block
to me yesterday.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If you want to get on an email thread with him or
whatever you want <br>
>>> to do please let me know.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Just don't need this hassle of things not
working.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 73 leon<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 8/9/2023 9:16 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:<br>
>>>> The VPN data for your Mikrotik will not work
with your state Hamgate<br>
>>>> unless your allocation matches the state
(44.56.xxx.xxx). Since your <br>
>>>> new<br>
>>>> allocation of <a
href="http://44.63.18.112/28" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">44.63.18.112/28</a>
was issued by someone else, you would <br>
>>>> need<br>
>>>> to put in a new request to switch back to
your old allocation.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 8/9/2023 9:08 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:<br>
>>>>> hi charles....well I am on the new
allocation but the mikrotik <br>
>>>>> script is not working right so I reached
out to marius.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> All this happened yesterday. IMHO big
deal if you don't hit the <br>
>>>>> portal in a year. do ISPs shut you down
only if you dont pay your <br>
>>>>> bill :-)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> 73 leon<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:41 AM, Charles J. Hargrove
wrote:<br>
>>>>>> That cancellation was done at the
ARDC level in one of their purges.<br>
>>>>>> I can reissue your old subnet and get
you going from there. Just <br>
>>>>>> let me<br>
>>>>>> know as you are putting in your
request so that I can approve it <br>
>>>>>> immediately.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:31 AM, Leon Zetekoff
wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> Hi Charles! I just went through
this because I missed the <br>
>>>>>>> messages that I needed to get
into the portal once a year and <br>
>>>>>>> then finally I was turned off.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> So I lost my original <a
href="http://44.56.53.1/28" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">44.56.53.1/28</a> and
now have <a href="http://44.63.18.112/28"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">44.63.18.112/28</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Trying to get things back up and
running is a PITA.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 73 leon wa4zlw<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On 8/8/2023 11:03 AM, Charles J.
Hargrove wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>> There seems to be a push by
the technical committee of ARDC to <br>
>>>>>>>> form the<br>
>>>>>>>> 44Net address space along
perceived use rather by <br>
>>>>>>>> area/region/state use.<br>
>>>>>>>> The plans are to be
"finalized" by the end of the year, although <br>
>>>>>>>> some new<br>
>>>>>>>> procedures are already being
carried out which has caused <br>
>>>>>>>> problems for new<br>
>>>>>>>> users in our network and
area.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> For the foreseeable future,
pass the word with any forwarding <br>
>>>>>>>> partners,<br>
>>>>>>>> new users and local clubs to
NOT file for an allocation on the <br>
>>>>>>>> 44Net portal,<br>
>>>>>>>> but instead contact me
directly at <a href="mailto:n2nov@n2nov.net" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">n2nov@n2nov.net</a> for a <br>
>>>>>>>> conversation<br>
>>>>>>>> and I can walk them through
it in real time so that it can not <br>
>>>>>>>> be short<br>
>>>>>>>> circuited in the process. The
state hamgates for Maryland and <br>
>>>>>>>> Delaware<br>
>>>>>>>> just went live this weekend,
complete with a central bbs for <br>
>>>>>>>> message<br>
>>>>>>>> forwarding and Wireguard VPN
servers for anyone to make use of. <br>
>>>>>>>> The past<br>
>>>>>>>> 18 months have been rolling
along for increasing connectivity <br>
>>>>>>>> and usefulness.<br>
>>>>>>>> Let's see what we can do to
keep it that way and to improve <br>
>>>>>>>> functionality.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
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