[HamGatePA] Mitigating Possible Changes to 44Net

Wed Aug 9 12:14:16 EDT 2023

OK. Let me put a VERY fine point on this situation with your new
44Net allocation:

- I am not the coordinator for 44.63.x.x, but G1FEF is the coordinator
- I do not know his logic or planned use of that address space
- The eleven states and HamGates that I coordinate are different subnets

Unless things are openly discussed by ARDC staff, the various local 44Net
coordinators and affected user population of all subnets, then I can not
confidently solve problems in an address space that I am not controlling
and working with. I would not want to mess up another's area of 
responsibility.

On 8/9/2023 12:04 PM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
> ok I'm working but 44.94.17.129 has a problem at his end
> 
> D:\Old Drive C>tracert n2nov.ampr.org
> 
> Tracing route to n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> 
>    1     3 ms     5 ms     2 ms  t40.wa4zlw.org [10.195.10.3]
>    2     4 ms     3 ms     2 ms  core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org [44.63.18.113]
>    3    45 ms    45 ms    44 ms  gw.n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.2]
>    4    50 ms    46 ms    44 ms  n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1]
> 
> Trace complete.
> 
> D:\Old Drive C>
> 
> 73 leon
> 
> On 8/9/2023 11:20 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>
>> here's what I'm seeing in the MTK
>>
>> 73 leon
>>
>> On 8/9/2023 11:18 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>> Hi Charles...I changed my Mikrotik over to the new allocation 
>>> yesterday but something is not working. I asked chris about my 
>>> original allocation and he said I can't have it back since they are 
>>> doing this new stuff. He allocated the new block to me yesterday.
>>>
>>> If you want to get on an email thread with him or whatever you want 
>>> to do please let me know.
>>>
>>> Just don't need this hassle of things not working.
>>>
>>> 73 leon
>>>
>>> On 8/9/2023 9:16 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>>>> The VPN data for your Mikrotik will not work with your state Hamgate
>>>> unless your allocation matches the state (44.56.xxx.xxx). Since your 
>>>> new
>>>> allocation of 44.63.18.112/28 was issued by someone else, you would 
>>>> need
>>>> to put in a new request to switch back to your old allocation.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/9/2023 9:08 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>>>> hi charles....well I am on the new allocation but the mikrotik 
>>>>> script is not working right so I reached out to marius.
>>>>>
>>>>> All this happened yesterday. IMHO big deal if you don't hit the 
>>>>> portal in a year. do ISPs shut you down only if you dont pay your 
>>>>> bill :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 leon
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:41 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>>>>>> That cancellation was done at the ARDC level in one of their purges.
>>>>>> I can reissue your old subnet and get you going from there. Just 
>>>>>> let me
>>>>>> know as you are putting in your request so that I can approve it 
>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/9/2023 8:31 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Charles! I just went through this because I missed the 
>>>>>>> messages that I needed to get into the portal once a year and 
>>>>>>> then finally I was turned off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I lost my original 44.56.53.1/28 and now have 44.63.18.112/28
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trying to get things back up and running is a PITA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 leon wa4zlw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/8/2023 11:03 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:
>>>>>>>> There seems to be a push by the technical committee of ARDC to 
>>>>>>>> form the
>>>>>>>> 44Net address space along perceived use rather by 
>>>>>>>> area/region/state use.
>>>>>>>> The plans are to be "finalized" by the end of the year, although 
>>>>>>>> some new
>>>>>>>> procedures are already being carried out which has caused 
>>>>>>>> problems for new
>>>>>>>> users in our network and area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the foreseeable future, pass the word with any forwarding 
>>>>>>>> partners,
>>>>>>>> new users and local clubs to NOT file for an allocation on the 
>>>>>>>> 44Net portal,
>>>>>>>> but instead contact me directly at n2nov at n2nov.net for a 
>>>>>>>> conversation
>>>>>>>> and I can walk them through it in real time so that it can not 
>>>>>>>> be short
>>>>>>>> circuited in the process. The state hamgates for Maryland and 
>>>>>>>> Delaware
>>>>>>>> just went live this weekend, complete with a central bbs for 
>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> forwarding and Wireguard VPN servers for anyone to make use of. 
>>>>>>>> The past
>>>>>>>> 18 months have been rolling along for increasing connectivity 
>>>>>>>> and usefulness.
>>>>>>>> Let's see what we can do to keep it that way and to improve 
>>>>>>>> functionality.

-- 
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
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