[HamGateNY] Proposed WWconvers Channel Scheme

Sat Nov 28 14:13:00 EST 2020

Not a problem, but to encourage usage and in a logical fashion.
As someone from Europe pointed out, there are only a handful of
people on the system at one time.  We use it here in NYC every
Monday during our weekly nets.  By having participating systems
linked to regional hubs like Hub_NA or Hub_EU, the same channel
can be accessed in various areas for greater participation.  The
statewide users on a particular channel like 68 for NY, can be a
meeting place for the state.  Special interests like ATV in the
UK meet on channel 625 (named for the 625 scan lines of the PAL
TV standard).  WWconvers has been around for over two decades and
the newer/younger hams most likely have never heard of it.  It is
just exposure, explanation on how it works and encouragement to
use it.

On 11/28/2020 1:41 PM, Joe Cupano wrote:
> 
> I saw a mention of WW convers in the link but no explanation.
> What is the problem you are trying to solve with WWconvers?
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to explain
> 
> - Joe, NE2Z
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Charles J. Hargrove:
>> Think of them as the same as IRC (Internet Relay Chat) or the old AOL
>> Instant Messenger (AIM).  Rather than based on names, WWconvers is based
>> on numbers and is limited to 32768 although the source code might be
>> written to include more.  With 0 reserved for a local default and not to
>> be relayed to others in the network, we get 32767 remaining.  Here is 
>> a 1996
>> FAQ on TNOS and mentions WWconvers 
>> https://www.qsl.net/gb7dip/tnos/faq-96.html
>>
>> On 11/28/2020 12:31 PM, Joe Cupano wrote:
>>>
>>> I am lost as to the origins of WWconvers and "channelizing."
>>> Is there a link?
>>>
>>> The subject of "channels" has come up as applied to digital modes as a
>>> while, voice and data, for UHF. Each has its own bandwidth requirements
>>> and utilization.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> - Joe, NE2Z
>>>
>>>
>>> Charles J. Hargrove:
>>>> PROPOSED WWCONVERS CHANNEL SCHEME
>>>>
>>>> There are 32767 possible channels in the WWconvers with channel 0 
>>>> reserved
>>>> for a local bbs to use as it's default when users log onto their 
>>>> system.
>>>> Finding other stations by area, interest or any other special use 
>>>> can get a
>>>> little confusing.  Some countries have settled on a scheme where 
>>>> their users
>>>> can find each other based on the second number of their assigned 
>>>> 44Net (AMPR)
>>>> address.  For example, Greece is assigned 44.154.0.0/16 and they can 
>>>> be found
>>>> on channel 154.
>>>>
>>>> In the USA (because of sheer numbers of systems over the years) the 
>>>> second
>>>> number in the address is typically an entire state with some having 
>>>> multiple
>>>> subnets (California has 6).  There has been an effort in recent 
>>>> years to clean
>>>> up the numbers and subnets no longer in use and this resulted in the 
>>>> range
>>>> from 44.191.0.0/16 to 44.255.0.0/16 to be sold to Amazon.
>>>>
>>>> To make things easier, I am proposing a somewhat logical layout to the
>>>> channel usage, not only by the 44Net addresses but also by specilized
>>>> uses for activities and watering holes like HF/VHF/UHF frequencies.
>>>> As you can see, there will be plenty of space for adhoc arrangements.
>>>> Discussions are welcomed and encouraged as how to use this space for 
>>>> the
>>>> benefit of many different groups and interests.
>>>>
>>>> DEFAULT
>>>> Channel 0 – default local use and not propagated across the 
>>>> WWconvers system.
>>>>
>>>> REGIONAL
>>>> Channel 1 through 190 – based on second number in the 44Net/AMPR 
>>>> addresses
>>>>
>>>> MATCHING TO RF FREQUENCY USED
>>>> (ie: net on 7240 kHz would use channel 7240)
>>>> 1800-1999    160m Channels
>>>> 3500-3999     80m Channels
>>>> 7000-7299     40m Channels
>>>> 10100-10149   30m Channels
>>>> 14000-14349   20m Channels
>>>> 18068-18167   17m Channels
>>>> 21000-21449   20m Channels
>>>> 24890-24989   12m Channels
>>>> 28000-29699   10m Channels
>>>> 5000-5399      6m Channels
>>>> 14400-14799    2m Channels
>>>> 22200-22499 1.25m Channels
>>>> 4200-4499    70cm Channels
>>>> 9020-9279    33cm Channels
>>>> 12400-12999  23cm Channels
>>>>
>>>> CURRENT SPECIALTY USERS
>>>> 625 – UHF Amateur TV Channel in UK
>>>> 10177 – OK2KOJ Club Channel in Czech Republic
>>>> 14736 – WC2OEM Channel for NYC Amateur Radio Emergency 
>>>> Communications Service
>>>>
>>>> SET AS LOCAL BBS USE (ie. JNOS Systems, etc)
>>>> 211 – Local NCS/ALT Channel for nets
>>>> 411 – Local WX Event Channel (Skywarn nets)
>>>> 911 – Local Emergency Net Activation Channel

-- 
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
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