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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> If you live in an area where people only build a small BPQ node, put a user port on it and link it to the internet I would totally agree with you that we are too dependent on the internet for packet. There was a real lull in packet activity and a lot of hams who got their licenses in the last 10 or 15 years only understand packet as being APRS. APRS is one use of packet radio but the concept of a connected radio network with dedicated backbone links and user ports had died off for the most part when affordable and speedy internet became mainstream. Some of us old die hard operators kept parts of the old packet network up and running. Here in Central NY and the Capital district we have nodes that have been running since the early 90’s. Back then it was part of the Northeast Digital Association (NEDA). This was more of a standards group than anything. They collectively developed a system of setting recommendations for the packet equipment of the day and hardware suggestions to establish site to site hidden transmitter free backbone links with user ports mostly on 2 meters for the everyday ham to gain access to the network. At the time it was very successful and reached from Ohio to Maine. If you look here <a href="http://www.torborg.com/ka2dew/packet/neda/neda.htm">http://www.torborg.com/ka2dew/packet/neda/neda.htm</a> you can read through a lot of the old quarterly newsletters. In those are old network maps that show you the complexity of things and how well the all ham volunteers had built a network out of massive cooperation and nothing more. Some of the major sites on that network are able to be revived or dusted off to get some of the core back together. Sadly though some of the site have gone quiet due to silent keys who once maintained them. The good news is that with some training and explanations but those of us who still remember what the network was, there are other hams who are in fact interested and willing to take up the cause and get things back on air. Quite a few of the sites are supported by local governments under their RACES programs and some of their hardened commercial tower sites are provided. There is tremendous support at the state RACES level to keep these packet networks alive and thriving. NY State RACES absolutely believes in packet radio! So much so that some of the homeland security department radio technicians help out and provide some technical support.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> The indicated support and energy that already exists on this list shows me we can make a vibrant and strong network once again and since we have more options to integrate TCPIP and the 44 ampr.org network, things will be even better than back in the 90’s.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank You,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brian Webster N2KGC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cooperstown. NY<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> HamGateNY [mailto:hamgateny-bounces@n2nov.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Piggott<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 30, 2020 12:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> 44Net Sysops in NY State<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamGateNY] Welcome to HamGateNY<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Just my few conversations with people in the regions we used to have working RF networks is starting to yield results. Enough results that we might have an RF network back up and running at least from Albany to the Buffalo region.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Your optimism about this really made my day. It gives me a sense of purpose.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hybrid networks are, will and should be part of our systems.</span> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I've been on a rant about amateur packet being totally dependent on the internet (which maybe is inaccurate and too pessimistic) but the way you phrased it approaches things more practically. The question is, will we build in the discipline to make sure the RF paths always work. Maybe the answer to that is 1) caring (hehe) and 2) some kind of NMS approach that keeps track of the condition of the RF path. That's an area I'd love to help.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:17 AM Brian Webster <<a href="mailto:bwebster@stny.rr.com">bwebster@stny.rr.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hybrid networks are, will and should be part of our systems. Even though RF links can be much slower than the internet backbone, slow is better than no connectivity should various portions of the network have connectivity issues. Something as simple as a power outage for an extended periods of time at a gateway location can affect the users on that segment of a network in the state. Having the RF link to use will be a nice asset. Many of the packet node systems can make use of routing to make use of the best working path at any given time.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just getting us all talking about these things makes a huge difference. Just my few conversations with people in the regions we used to have working RF networks is starting to yield results. Enough results that we might have an RF network back up and running at least from Albany to the Buffalo region. From that core links up to Watertown and Northern NY and then the Southern Tier could be next. The RF linking to the downstate and NY metro region will likely be easiest to accomplish with a link from PA to Northern NJ and that existing network for now. Once those are established additional routes over RF would be the next logical step to have some redundancy.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brian Webster N2KGC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cooperstown, NY 13326</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> HamGateNY [mailto:<a href="mailto:hamgateny-bounces@n2nov.net" target="_blank">hamgateny-bounces@n2nov.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Cupano<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> 44Net Sysops in NY State; Andrew J. McLeod, KB2AJM (ex. KD2PLE)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamGateNY] Welcome to HamGateNY</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Well said, AJM<br><br>It was amazing how much infrastructure was unaffected in the rest of NYC.<br>I worked for a global financial that started hosting other financials on our IT infra<br>that were displaced by the events in a few days.<br><br>73,<br><br>- Joe, NE2Z<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andrew J. McLeod, KB2AJM (ex. KD2PLE):<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Nov 16, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Christopher Piggott <a href="mailto:cpiggott@gmail.com" target="_blank"><cpiggott@gmail.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Internet to help carry between those areas where a direct RF connection may not be possible <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I do understand that. I'm just worried about the idea of being so dependent on public wired and wireless infrastructure.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I too worry about the dependency on public infrastructure. On the other hand, you do have to admit that:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>a) there is a lot more geography covered by it than by Hams nowadays, and<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>b) in my mind (personal opinion from personal experience,) the lessons of 9/11 (when I was still living in northern NJ and was a Voice + IP tech/engineer in Manhattan at the time) demonstrated the self-healing and resilient capabilities of TCP/IP and packet networks, as was intended by the DARPA people who to my understanding invented it to (hopefully) maintain distributed command and control after a nuclear attack. When maximum destruction at ground zero took out not only Verizon Bldg. #7 but all the fiber, copper and AT&T switching equipment in the basement of tower (1 or 2) and - between cable cuts and power loss - the majority of the interconnects coming into the eastern seaboard, when analog switched phone, cellular, many of the local NYC broadcast TV and radio stations (antennas on the roof of the WTC) went out. But my Blackberry work pager worked, as did AOL and Yahoo instant messenger, and a lot of people communicated with their families that way that day...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Although I do not have all the faith in the world that some have in our infrastructure (including FirstNet) nor do I live all the way in conspiracyland, I do believe that our dependence on the internet for all types of connectivity (even some of the ignorant hospitals I work for depend almost entirely on remote connectivity across large healthcare systems with distant data enters with almost no local infrastructure now,) has led to at least a somewhat stronger, more resilient network in that regard.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>And to that extent, for what we are doing, for small hops in between the regions that we simply do not have enough Hams to cover, I think we have no choice but for a hybrid system. After all, "44net" by definition is related to our IPv4 allocation. And so unlike some projects that are intended to be entirely wireless, I think hybrid is in our DNA so to speak...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Barring solar flares and all out armageddon, I think we have no choice...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>That's just my opinion...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>73,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>AJM, KB2AJM<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Nov 16, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Christopher Piggott <<a href="mailto:cpiggott@gmail.com" target="_blank">cpiggott@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Internet to help carry between those areas where a direct RF connection may not be possible <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I do understand that. I'm just worried about the idea of being so dependent on public wired and wireless infrastructure. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 9:18 PM Andrew J. McLeod, KB2AJM (ex. KD2PLE) < <a href="mailto:andrew@kb2ajm.us" target="_blank">andrew@kb2ajm.us</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hello Mitch KE7WWT. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Without drooling too much, I just wanted to say that your extremely ambitious project(s) mirror my own interests in being able to "INTER-network" and converge these vital (and fun) communications technologies - voice, data/packet/digi, VoIP, APRS, RF, terrestrial, etc. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>You guys up north may be some of the poorest counties in NYS, but down here in the rural Catskills we have some simar statistics too (just not ones to brag about.) I and a few dispersed others also have ambitious ideas that many surrounding us are either put off by or simply not interested in. And so while a few projects of communal interest are making some progress regionally (ex. Winlink, an ARES/RACES repeater, some APRS digipeaters and I-gates, etc.) others such as myself have been doing similar to you - trying to build it all ourselves out of shallow pockets and an even smaller lot of property. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I find your portable C&C center very interesting, and similar to my (thus far more) meager and slightly larger 12U rolling 19" rack case I've built for ARES and personal use. The entire idea of being able to congregate info from a multitude of sources and potentially do so two-way over range without the requirement of failable infrastructure is exactly what interests me as well (too many years of IT and EMS, including working in NYC before, during and after 9/11.) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So while - with the exception of my SignaLink USB on HF - my setup is (mostly) analog so far, my goal as time and finances allow is to expand this into the exact same voice/packet INTER-networked type of set-up you have in mind, both stationary/base as well as portable. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I would definitely be interested in chatting as to where you are and where you see your next steps to be going, and if I can offer any assistance from my background I would be happy to do so - AND THAT OFFER GOES TO ANYBODY ELSE WHERE. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>With regards to internet connectivity, TCP/IP, data and VoIP equipment, I have (home) business-grade internet with a 13 usable block of public IPs, as well as considerably more TCP/IP, VoIP and security equipment (Cisco, Ubiquiti, etc.) at the moment than I do Ham, so while I know TCP/IP is a heavy-overhead protocol, if any projects of interest have the need to (for example) convert an incoming RF analog voice or fax signal into TCP/IP to send out over the internet - or to use VoIP to link RFs at 2 locations over internet (sort of like EchoLink does,) those are some of the ideas I've been toying around with... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Enough for now. Glad to make everybody's acquaintance, and TTYS. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>73 again, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Andrew J. McLeod, KB2AJM <br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Get <a href="http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=16117" target="_blank">BlueMail for Android</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Nov 11, 2020, at 6:52 AM, "Maurice A. Mitchell - KE7WWT" < <a href="mailto:maurice@maurice-mitchell.com" target="_blank">maurice@maurice-mitchell.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre>KE7WWT<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Jefferson County NY (North of Syracuse) located just a stone's throw away from the fence at Fort Drum. Retired Army - 26 years, 7 months, 5 days and 2 hours.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I run the WINLINK Packet system and serve on the both ARES and RACES. I am a DHS SHARES operator with ALE/Voice and HF RMS WINLINK. I am also a MARS operator. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I start this project almost a year ago and thanks to changes dealing with COVID, I have ran out of time, but hope to have things change soon. I wanted to use the 44Net as a way to combine, in one box or two (ammo cans) the ability to have a mobile/portable node that serves Broadband Hamnet, APRS I-GATE and digi, remote control of base station radios, DMR and maybe D-STAR hotspots, and of course the ability to link and interface Packet. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Jefferson and its surrounding counties (Saint Lawrence and Lewis) are the three poorest counties in the State, and as such, there is very little activity that requires expenditure of money. As such, I have taken the "build it and they will come" mentality. In the end, it does not work - This is baofeng country. Not a lot of hams, and not a lot of invested in the art and science of communications. That said, I still want a method that can tie me into various networks to not only pull information, but also to share information for the benefit of a larger group. I want something that is not internet-dependent, but is internet-enabled. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>In the end. . I need a lot of help.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mitch<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: HamGateNY <<a href="mailto:hamgateny-bounces@n2nov.net" target="_blank">hamgateny-bounces@n2nov.net</a>> On Behalf Of Charles J. Hargrove<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 23:28<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a href="mailto:hamgateny@n2nov.net" target="_blank">hamgateny@n2nov.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [HamGateNY] Welcome to HamGateNY<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>So far we have seen introductions from:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>KA1NJL, K2JJT, WW2BSA, KB2AJM and AJ2A.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>How about the rest of this 92 person group?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>What is your set-up or what will it be?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>What software, hardware, services, etc?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Let us all help each other to get things going.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>On 11/5/2020 11:06 AM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Since the merger of the WNYPG mailing list into the HamGateNY list, we <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> now have 87 members (some who were on both lists). This would be a <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> great opportunity to introduce yourselves. Give us your callsign, <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> what area of NY State (or outside of it), what kind of packet system <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> you are running, etc.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Let's use this list as a request-for-help and sharing of <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> knowledge/projects.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> I will start:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - N2NOV<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - Staten Island, NYC<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - EmComm lead for ARES/RACES during 9/11, 2003 Blackout, etc<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - Founder/President of NYC-ARECS (<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.nyc-arecs.org" target="_blank">http://www.nyc-arecs.org</a>)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - running JNOS system since 1998 starting on DOS and now Linux<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - NY State 44Net/<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://AMPR.org" target="_blank">AMPR.org</a> coordinator<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - IT field since 1989 (databases, networking, help desk, web hosting)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - ran for Congress as a write-in twice <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> (<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.HargroveForCongress.us" target="_blank">http://www.HargroveForCongress.us</a>)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - Secretary of the Staten Island Libertarian Party<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.nyc-arecs.org" target="_blank">http://www.nyc-arecs.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>