From n2nov at n2nov.net Fri Jan 1 13:52:40 2021 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 13:52:40 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Statewide Networking Ideas Message-ID: Happy New Year 2021 to all. Time to forget about the 2020 crap, ignore the clueless politicians and media and just live our lives! Here is an idea on how they are building out their network in Slovenia. Maybe there are some good ideas that will catch your fancy. Maybe a concrete example of our current and future S5net in Slovenia together with our expectations from broader 44net community could help. As you can see from schema of current and planned links: https://groups.io/g/nbp/topic/s5net_stanje_in_plan/79358609 we are building nationwide radio network, linking our hills with DMR repeaters into a fully redundant network, as much as possible independent from public internet. Main goals: - reliable DMR, EchoLink, APRS network, - emergency communications for our communities, - for radioclubs and individual radioamateurs, - open for experimentation and innovation into the future. Besides mesh-like radio layer there is also a star-like ground layer connecting gateways to public internet via tunnels to main router in our capital. VPN server is established to connect easily and from everywhere to the S5net. Offering L2TP and SSTP VPN access which is easiest for most people. We are using Mikrotik routers and Wifi antennas from Ubiquiti and Mikrotik. But we care not to become too dependent to any vendor. Sticking to standards is a key here. We allocate our 44.150 IPs in the following way: - /28 with reserve /28 to each hill, - /24 with reserve /24 to each interested radioclub, - /28 with /28 to a LAN of each interested radioamateur, - static /32 and dynamic /32 (like for mobile phones) to each interested - more for specific needs (for experimentation, some IoT projects etc.) Allocation is not forever, it will probably cease 5yrs after inactivity. OSPF protocol routes traffic in S5net. Therefore we are free to raise any subnet anywhere in the network. For things like roaming.. BGP to the public internet for a whole national 44.150 allocation is something we are thinking about. Like in Netherlands as I understand? All access from outside disallowed by default, switched on manually for each individual IP or subnet. For peering we are talking with our Academic network ARNES, because they are similar in philosophy and have a lot of knowledgeable networkers willing to help. To interconnect with HAMnet in neighbor countries we also plan to use BGP with a whole S5net as one AS with private ASN. Our DMR master server is multihomed - with public access for hotspots and with 44 IP via S5net for DMR repeaters. Hope this helps a bit 73, Janko S57NK -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From jjarchambeault at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 15:13:53 2021 From: jjarchambeault at gmail.com (Jeff Archambeault) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 15:13:53 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Statewide Networking Ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great ideas in there! I like being able to layer different technologies and experiment with different topologies. - A static/intentionally engineered cross-continent Amateur RF Terabit Digital Backbone (anyone want to help coordinate a national weekend event to see how far it could go?) - A static/intentionally engineered mesh, ala aredn to cover counties - A dynamic, fault-tolerant, delay-resistant, mobile-capable mesh, ala InterPlaNet to fill in the gaps between counties or states (never underestimate the bandwidth of an SSD or 2 on a RaspberryPi 4 driving cross-country in a Tesla) - Local BBHN/AREDN meshes and New Packet Radio (more of a star topo) to serve areas of concern, especially between EOCs, Hospitals, Shelters, Schools, etc. - Good old packet as "interface of last resort" with store/forward files, email, text/sms, APRS, "Virtual Assistants", interface to D* digital services, etc There are so many aspects to the various ways we can experiment as amateurs and actually contribute to the technologies involved in each. 73 and Happy New Year de Jeff AJ2A Jeff Archambeault Proprietor, Bark Eater Studios Technology Frustration Resolution Solutions jeff at barkeaterstudios.com (518) 696-5675 (home) (518) 595-9815 (cell) On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 1:52 PM Charles J. Hargrove wrote: > Happy New Year 2021 to all. Time to forget about the 2020 crap, ignore > the clueless politicians and media and just live our lives! > > Here is an idea on how they are building out their network in Slovenia. > Maybe there are some good ideas that will catch your fancy. > > > Maybe a concrete example of our current and future S5net in Slovenia > together with our expectations from broader 44net community could help. > > As you can see from schema of current and planned links: > > https://groups.io/g/nbp/topic/s5net_stanje_in_plan/79358609 > > we are building nationwide radio network, linking our hills with DMR > repeaters into a fully redundant network, as much as possible > independent from public internet. Main goals: > > - reliable DMR, EchoLink, APRS network, > - emergency communications for our communities, > - for radioclubs and individual radioamateurs, > - open for experimentation and innovation into the future. > > Besides mesh-like radio layer there is also a star-like ground layer > connecting gateways to public internet via tunnels to main router in our > capital. VPN server is established to connect easily and from everywhere > to the S5net. Offering L2TP and SSTP VPN access which is easiest for > most people. > > We are using Mikrotik routers and Wifi antennas from Ubiquiti and > Mikrotik. But we care not to become too dependent to any vendor. > Sticking to standards is a key here. > > We allocate our 44.150 IPs in the following way: > > - /28 with reserve /28 to each hill, > - /24 with reserve /24 to each interested radioclub, > - /28 with /28 to a LAN of each interested radioamateur, > - static /32 and dynamic /32 (like for mobile phones) to each interested > - more for specific needs (for experimentation, some IoT projects etc.) > > Allocation is not forever, it will probably cease 5yrs after inactivity. > > OSPF protocol routes traffic in S5net. Therefore we are free to raise > any subnet anywhere in the network. For things like roaming.. > > BGP to the public internet for a whole national 44.150 allocation is > something we are thinking about. Like in Netherlands as I understand? > All access from outside disallowed by default, switched on manually for > each individual IP or subnet. > > For peering we are talking with our Academic network ARNES, because they > are similar in philosophy and have a lot of knowledgeable networkers > willing to help. > > To interconnect with HAMnet in neighbor countries we also plan to use > BGP with a whole S5net as one AS with private ASN. > > Our DMR master server is multihomed - with public access for hotspots > and with 44 IP via S5net for DMR repeaters. > > Hope this helps a bit > 73, Janko S57NK > > > -- > Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV > NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. > > NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL > ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM > NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM > http://www.nyc-arecs.org > > NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM > on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 > > "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls > topped > by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan > > "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus > > "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying > (The work praises the man.) > > "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it > provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at kb2ajm.us Fri Jan 1 17:32:36 2021 From: andrew at kb2ajm.us (Andrew McLeod) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:32:36 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Statewide Networking Ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <147bad87-781c-4bae-ba66-c36d2597e14c@kb2ajm.us> I find this extremely fascinating and also informational. A lot of it meshes exactly with the "big picture" of what I have in my head and dream of building even for my part. I also find their use if Ubiquuti and Microtik very interesting. Unless I am mistaken, Microtik is not huge in the smaller (consumer Ham) markets here in the US, but for long distance GHz connections a Ham friend of mine is very much into Microsoft. As for Ubiquiti, I already? have some Ubiquiti equipment I am experimenting with, some of which was purchased specifically for this project. Fascinating to see that people are doing the exact same thing as us in other parts of the world. Makes it a smaller, more human place again IMHO... Regards / 73, Andrew J McLeod,? KB2AJM ?Get BlueMail for Android ? On Jan 1, 2021, 13:53, at 13:53, "Charles J. Hargrove" wrote: >Happy New Year 2021 to all. Time to forget about the 2020 crap, ignore >the clueless politicians and media and just live our lives! > >Here is an idea on how they are building out their network in Slovenia. >Maybe there are some good ideas that will catch your fancy. > > >Maybe a concrete example of our current and future S5net in Slovenia >together with our expectations from broader 44net community could help. > >As you can see from schema of current and planned links: > > https://groups.io/g/nbp/topic/s5net_stanje_in_plan/79358609 > >we are building nationwide radio network, linking our hills with DMR >repeaters into a fully redundant network, as much as possible >independent from public internet. Main goals: > >- reliable DMR, EchoLink, APRS network, >- emergency communications for our communities, >- for radioclubs and individual radioamateurs, >- open for experimentation and innovation into the future. > >Besides mesh-like radio layer there is also a star-like ground layer >connecting gateways to public internet via tunnels to main router in >our >capital. VPN server is established to connect easily and from >everywhere >to the S5net. Offering L2TP and SSTP VPN access which is easiest for >most people. > >We are using Mikrotik routers and Wifi antennas from Ubiquiti and >Mikrotik. But we care not to become too dependent to any vendor. >Sticking to standards is a key here. > >We allocate our 44.150 IPs in the following way: > >- /28 with reserve /28 to each hill, >- /24 with reserve /24 to each interested radioclub, >- /28 with /28 to a LAN of each interested radioamateur, >- static /32 and dynamic /32 (like for mobile phones) to each >interested >- more for specific needs (for experimentation, some IoT projects etc.) > >Allocation is not forever, it will probably cease 5yrs after >inactivity. > >OSPF protocol routes traffic in S5net. Therefore we are free to raise >any subnet anywhere in the network. For things like roaming.. > >BGP to the public internet for a whole national 44.150 allocation is >something we are thinking about. Like in Netherlands as I understand? >All access from outside disallowed by default, switched on manually for > >each individual IP or subnet. > >For peering we are talking with our Academic network ARNES, because >they >are similar in philosophy and have a lot of knowledgeable networkers >willing to help. > >To interconnect with HAMnet in neighbor countries we also plan to use >BGP with a whole S5net as one AS with private ASN. > >Our DMR master server is multihomed - with public access for hotspots >and with 44 IP via S5net for DMR repeaters. > >Hope this helps a bit >73, Janko S57NK > > >-- >Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV >NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. > >NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL >ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM >NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM >http://www.nyc-arecs.org > >NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM >on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 > >"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the >walls >topped >by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald >Reagan > >"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus > >"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying >(The work praises the man.) > >"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services >it >provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at kb2ajm.us Fri Jan 1 17:40:47 2021 From: andrew at kb2ajm.us (Andrew McLeod) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:40:47 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Statewide Networking Ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98690013-eae8-4a3a-bfd5-2441cf411ea6@kb2ajm.us> Jeff, I couldn't have said it better myself. So many ideas come to mind I don't want to bake them all out right now. But once more clearly thought out (by me...) I especially like the "Local BBHN/AREDN meshes and New Packet Radio (more of a star topo) to serve areas of concern, especially between EOCs, Hospitals, Shelters, Schools, etc....Good old packet as "interface of last resort" with store/forward files, email, text/sms, APRS, "Virtual Assistants", interface to D* digital services, etc" ideas, as they .ash well (no oun intended) with some of the portable or mobile ideas that I am working on... Tell me also please - do we have existing technology (frequencies, products?) to accomplish such a "...cross-continent Amateur RF Terabit Digital Backbone..." yet? Or do you mean with regards to overall capacity over redundant links and nets as apposed to that capacity in a single beam/hop? Curious? about your thoughts... 73, AJM,? KB2AJM " ?Get BlueMail for Android ? On Jan 1, 2021, 15:16, at 15:16, Jeff Archambeault wrote: >Great ideas in there! > >I like being able to layer different technologies and experiment with >different topologies. >- A static/intentionally engineered cross-continent Amateur RF Terabit >Digital Backbone (anyone want to help coordinate a national weekend >event >to see how far it could go?) >- A static/intentionally engineered mesh, ala aredn to cover counties >- A dynamic, fault-tolerant, delay-resistant, mobile-capable mesh, ala >InterPlaNet to fill in the gaps between counties or states (never >underestimate the bandwidth of an SSD or 2 on a RaspberryPi 4 driving >cross-country in a Tesla) >- Local BBHN/AREDN meshes and New Packet Radio (more of a star topo) to >serve areas of concern, especially between EOCs, Hospitals, Shelters, >Schools, etc. >- Good old packet as "interface of last resort" with store/forward >files, >email, text/sms, APRS, "Virtual Assistants", interface to D* digital >services, etc > >There are so many aspects to the various ways we can experiment as >amateurs >and actually contribute to the technologies involved in each. > >73 and Happy New Year de Jeff AJ2A > >Jeff Archambeault >Proprietor, Bark Eater Studios >Technology Frustration Resolution Solutions >jeff at barkeaterstudios.com >(518) 696-5675 (home) >(518) 595-9815 (cell) > > >On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 1:52 PM Charles J. Hargrove >wrote: > >> Happy New Year 2021 to all. Time to forget about the 2020 crap, >ignore >> the clueless politicians and media and just live our lives! >> >> Here is an idea on how they are building out their network in >Slovenia. >> Maybe there are some good ideas that will catch your fancy. >> >> >> Maybe a concrete example of our current and future S5net in Slovenia >> together with our expectations from broader 44net community could >help. >> >> As you can see from schema of current and planned links: >> >> https://groups.io/g/nbp/topic/s5net_stanje_in_plan/79358609 >> >> we are building nationwide radio network, linking our hills with DMR >> repeaters into a fully redundant network, as much as possible >> independent from public internet. Main goals: >> >> - reliable DMR, EchoLink, APRS network, >> - emergency communications for our communities, >> - for radioclubs and individual radioamateurs, >> - open for experimentation and innovation into the future. >> >> Besides mesh-like radio layer there is also a star-like ground layer >> connecting gateways to public internet via tunnels to main router in >our >> capital. VPN server is established to connect easily and from >everywhere >> to the S5net. Offering L2TP and SSTP VPN access which is easiest for >> most people. >> >> We are using Mikrotik routers and Wifi antennas from Ubiquiti and >> Mikrotik. But we care not to become too dependent to any vendor. >> Sticking to standards is a key here. >> >> We allocate our 44.150 IPs in the following way: >> >> - /28 with reserve /28 to each hill, >> - /24 with reserve /24 to each interested radioclub, >> - /28 with /28 to a LAN of each interested radioamateur, >> - static /32 and dynamic /32 (like for mobile phones) to each >interested >> - more for specific needs (for experimentation, some IoT projects >etc.) >> >> Allocation is not forever, it will probably cease 5yrs after >inactivity. >> >> OSPF protocol routes traffic in S5net. Therefore we are free to raise >> any subnet anywhere in the network. For things like roaming.. >> >> BGP to the public internet for a whole national 44.150 allocation is >> something we are thinking about. Like in Netherlands as I understand? >> All access from outside disallowed by default, switched on manually >for >> each individual IP or subnet. >> >> For peering we are talking with our Academic network ARNES, because >they >> are similar in philosophy and have a lot of knowledgeable networkers >> willing to help. >> >> To interconnect with HAMnet in neighbor countries we also plan to use >> BGP with a whole S5net as one AS with private ASN. >> >> Our DMR master server is multihomed - with public access for hotspots >> and with 44 IP via S5net for DMR repeaters. >> >> Hope this helps a bit >> 73, Janko S57NK >> >> >> -- >> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV >> NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. >> >> NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL >> ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM >> NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM >> http://www.nyc-arecs.org >> >> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM >> on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 >> >> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the >walls >> topped >> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald >Reagan >> >> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus >> >> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying >> (The work praises the man.) >> >> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many >services it >> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjarchambeault at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 20:36:27 2021 From: jjarchambeault at gmail.com (Jeff Archambeault) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 20:36:27 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Statewide Networking Ideas In-Reply-To: <98690013-eae8-4a3a-bfd5-2441cf411ea6@kb2ajm.us> References: <98690013-eae8-4a3a-bfd5-2441cf411ea6@kb2ajm.us> Message-ID: Whee! On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 5:42 PM Andrew McLeod wrote: > Jeff, > > I couldn't have said it better myself. So many ideas come to mind I don't > want to bake them all out right now. But once more clearly thought out (by > me...) > > I especially like the "Local BBHN/AREDN meshes and New Packet Radio (more > of a star topo) to serve areas of concern, especially between EOCs, > Hospitals, Shelters, Schools, etc....Good old packet as "interface of last > resort" with store/forward files, email, text/sms, APRS, "Virtual > Assistants", interface to D* digital services, etc" ideas, as they .ash > well (no oun intended) with some of the portable or mobile ideas that I am > working on... > One of my fav uses of good old packet is having Converse back-channel coms between involved stations, not to mention show off being able to send lists of pharmaceuticals in a relatively short amount of time. Of course WinLink is all the rave, we have email gateways on several My next programming project is mostly about integrating Asterisk, Phone Patches, All Star Link, Mycroft, APRS, and other toys. > Tell me also please - do we have existing technology (frequencies, > products?) to accomplish such a "...cross-continent Amateur RF Terabit > Digital Backbone..." yet? Or do you mean with regards to overall capacity > over redundant links and nets as apposed to that capacity in a single > beam/hop? Curious about your thoughts... > > Wishful thinking... We can probably skip Mbps and go right to Gbps, but that's probably not much of a backbone. Event could be a weekend race to build longest chain, regardless of bandwidth, but as teams find new places to hold the event each year, they can have solar powered nodes plunked down in permanently legal locations after a couple years. > 73, > > AJM, KB2AJM > > > " > > Get BlueMail for Android > Jeff Archambeault Proprietor, Bark Eater Studios Technology Frustration Resolution Solutions jeff at barkeaterstudios.com (518) 696-5675 (home) (518) 595-9815 (cell) > On Jan 1, 2021, at 15:16, Jeff Archambeault > wrote: >> >> Great ideas in there! >> >> I like being able to layer different technologies and experiment with >> different topologies. >> - A static/intentionally engineered cross-continent Amateur RF Terabit >> Digital Backbone (anyone want to help coordinate a national weekend event >> to see how far it could go?) >> - A static/intentionally engineered mesh, ala aredn to cover counties >> - A dynamic, fault-tolerant, delay-resistant, mobile-capable mesh, ala >> InterPlaNet to fill in the gaps between counties or states (never >> underestimate the bandwidth of an SSD or 2 on a RaspberryPi 4 driving >> cross-country in a Tesla) >> - Local BBHN/AREDN meshes and New Packet Radio (more of a star topo) to >> serve areas of concern, especially between EOCs, Hospitals, Shelters, >> Schools, etc. >> - Good old packet as "interface of last resort" with store/forward files, >> email, text/sms, APRS, "Virtual Assistants", interface to D* digital >> services, etc >> >> There are so many aspects to the various ways we can experiment as >> amateurs and actually contribute to the technologies involved in each. >> >> 73 and Happy New Year de Jeff AJ2A >> >> Jeff Archambeault >> Proprietor, Bark Eater Studios >> Technology Frustration Resolution Solutions >> jeff at barkeaterstudios.com >> (518) 696-5675 (home) >> (518) 595-9815 (cell) >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 1:52 PM Charles J. Hargrove < n2nov at n2nov.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Happy New Year 2021 to all. Time to forget about the 2020 crap, ignore >>> the clueless politicians and media and just live our lives! >>> >>> Here is an idea on how they are building out their network in Slovenia. >>> Maybe there are some good ideas that will catch your fancy. >>> >>> >>> Maybe a concrete example of our current and future S5net in Slovenia >>> together with our expectations from broader 44net community could help. >>> >>> As you can see from schema of current and planned links: >>> >>> https://groups.io/g/nbp/topic/s5net_stanje_in_plan/79358609 >>> >>> we are building nationwide radio network, linking our hills with DMR >>> repeaters into a fully redundant network, as much as possible >>> independent from public internet. Main goals: >>> >>> - reliable DMR, EchoLink, APRS network, >>> - emergency communications for our communities, >>> - for radioclubs and individual radioamateurs, >>> - open for experimentation and innovation into the future. >>> >>> Besides mesh-like radio layer there is also a star-like ground layer >>> connecting gateways to public internet via tunnels to main router in our >>> capital. VPN server is established to connect easily and from everywhere >>> to the S5net. Offering L2TP and SSTP VPN access which is easiest for >>> most people. >>> >>> We are using Mikrotik routers and Wifi antennas from Ubiquiti and >>> Mikrotik. But we care not to become too dependent to any vendor. >>> Sticking to standards is a key here. >>> >>> We allocate our 44.150 IPs in the following way: >>> >>> - /28 with reserve /28 to each hill, >>> - /24 with reserve /24 to each interested radioclub, >>> - /28 with /28 to a LAN of each interested radioamateur, >>> - static /32 and dynamic /32 (like for mobile phones) to each interested >>> - more for specific needs (for experimentation, some IoT projects etc.) >>> >>> Allocation is not forever, it will probably cease 5yrs after inactivity. >>> >>> OSPF protocol routes traffic in S5net. Therefore we are free to raise >>> any subnet anywhere in the network. For things like roaming.. >>> >>> BGP to the public internet for a whole national 44.150 allocation is >>> something we are thinking about. Like in Netherlands as I understand? >>> All access from outside disallowed by default, switched on manually for >>> each individual IP or subnet. >>> >>> For peering we are talking with our Academic network ARNES, because they >>> are similar in philosophy and have a lot of knowledgeable networkers >>> willing to help. >>> >>> To interconnect with HAMnet in neighbor countries we also plan to use >>> BGP with a whole S5net as one AS with private ASN. >>> >>> Our DMR master server is multihomed - with public access for hotspots >>> and with 44 IP via S5net for DMR repeaters. >>> >>> Hope this helps a bit >>> 73, Janko S57NK >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV >>> NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. >>> >>> NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL >>> ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM >>> NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM >>> http://www.nyc-arecs.org >>> >>> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM >>> on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 >>> >>> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls >>> topped >>> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald >>> Reagan >>> >>> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus >>> >>> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying >>> (The work praises the man.) >>> >>> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services >>> it >>> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n2nov at n2nov.net Tue Jan 5 10:33:08 2021 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 10:33:08 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] What is Old is New Again! (NetRom Parameters) Message-ID: <4e8a3021-231f-e244-bff3-eb7932d8fcaf@n2nov.net> I was looking at the old NEDA (NorthEast Digital Association) newsletters from twenty years ago (1999) and want to show you some pertinent NetRom parameters that might help with the bloated (some over 100) nodes lists that we see from time to time. These started as X1J parameters, but you might find them useful to give you an idea how to tweak your BPQ, Xrouter, *NOS, Flex, etc systems. Each program might use a different naming convention, but reading the details of your documentation will align to NEDA labels. As always, adjustments can be made for a non-standard configurations like full duplex data repeaters, etc. Feel free to discuss the technical points here, but gear the explanation for the newer sysops. The parameters are broken down differently by the type of connection you have with another station (mostly RF-based). Adaption to an AXIP link via wired internet should follow the Dedicated Point-to-Point Link (DPPL). USER PORT (typical 2 meter port): No node table is broadcast to keep channel clear. Do this by setting Initial (Default) Obsolescence at 5 and the Minimum Obsolescence to 6. Since the default is lower than the cutoff, it will never broadcast. DPPL (only two backbone users on a dedicated frequency) [or AXIP]: Your partner station should be a locked route with quality of 203. Accept incoming nodes from your partner with minimum quality of 63. Initial (Default) Obsolescence at 5 Minimum Obsolescence to 3 Nodes Broadcast Interval 900 seconds (15 minutes) The obsolescence count will start at 5 and decrement by 1 every 15 minute cycle and stop when it hits 3 if there is no refresh from your partner station. This keeps things clean and updated within 30 minutes. Multiway Backbone with 3 Partners (typically 220 Mhz regional channel) Your partner station should be a locked route with quality of 203. Accept incoming nodes from your partner with minimum quality of 63. Initial (Default) Obsolescence at 5 Minimum Obsolescence to 2 Nodes Broadcast Interval 900 seconds (15 minutes) The obsolescence count will start at 5 and decrement by 1 every 15 minute cycle and stop when it hits 2 if there is no refresh from your partner station. This keeps things clean and updated within 45 minutes. This allows for occasional transmitter collisions between partners. NOTE: current practice is to set minimum quality values at 150 or 180 is only to mitigate the effect of mislabeled nodes qualities broadcast to partner systems that get propagated. There are several systems that make all of the nodes in their table higher than they should be. When the network is cleaned out and realigned, then the minimum quality can be adjusted downward. How are node qualities adjusted when the nodes table is passed around the network from partner to partner? *** ONLY WHAT IS ON YOUR PHYSICAL BOX OR WIRED LAN SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN 203 *** Initial partner quality is 203 (out of 256) or 203/256 First hop between AXIP partners is 203/256 * 203/256 or 161/256 Second hop between AXIP partners is 161/256 * 203/256 or 128/256 Third hop between AXIP partners is 128/256 * 203/256 or 101/256 Fourth hop between AXIP partners is 101/256 * 203/256 or 80/256 Fifth hop between AXIP partners is 80/256 * 203/256 or 63/256 -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From bwebster at wirelessmapping.com Tue Jan 5 11:09:17 2021 From: bwebster at wirelessmapping.com (Brian Webster) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 11:09:17 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] What is Old is New Again! (NetRom Parameters) In-Reply-To: <4e8a3021-231f-e244-bff3-eb7932d8fcaf@n2nov.net> References: <4e8a3021-231f-e244-bff3-eb7932d8fcaf@n2nov.net> Message-ID: <2b7e01d6e37d$1e846aa0$5b8d3fe0$@wirelessmapping.com> Charles, Thanks for this information! What might help is to take this information and do some screen shots of node broadcasts from various partners to you so that people can see what gets sent to their node from others. When you see the list getting sent to you with various node quality numbers in the broadcast, that will help make more sense of this description. I am sure there are many who have never actually watched the traffic coming in to their nodes. Personally for me, watching those nodes broadcasts helped me understand the things you just described and how my settings would be at issue or not. Thank you, Brian Webster N2KGC -----Original Message----- From: HamGateNY [mailto:hamgateny-bounces at n2nov.net] On Behalf Of Charles J. Hargrove Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 10:33 AM To: 44Net Sysops in NY State Subject: [HamGateNY] What is Old is New Again! (NetRom Parameters) I was looking at the old NEDA (NorthEast Digital Association) newsletters from twenty years ago (1999) and want to show you some pertinent NetRom parameters that might help with the bloated (some over 100) nodes lists that we see from time to time. These started as X1J parameters, but you might find them useful to give you an idea how to tweak your BPQ, Xrouter, *NOS, Flex, etc systems. Each program might use a different naming convention, but reading the details of your documentation will align to NEDA labels. As always, adjustments can be made for a non-standard configurations like full duplex data repeaters, etc. Feel free to discuss the technical points here, but gear the explanation for the newer sysops. The parameters are broken down differently by the type of connection you have with another station (mostly RF-based). Adaption to an AXIP link via wired internet should follow the Dedicated Point-to-Point Link (DPPL). USER PORT (typical 2 meter port): No node table is broadcast to keep channel clear. Do this by setting Initial (Default) Obsolescence at 5 and the Minimum Obsolescence to 6. Since the default is lower than the cutoff, it will never broadcast. DPPL (only two backbone users on a dedicated frequency) [or AXIP]: Your partner station should be a locked route with quality of 203. Accept incoming nodes from your partner with minimum quality of 63. Initial (Default) Obsolescence at 5 Minimum Obsolescence to 3 Nodes Broadcast Interval 900 seconds (15 minutes) The obsolescence count will start at 5 and decrement by 1 every 15 minute cycle and stop when it hits 3 if there is no refresh from your partner station. This keeps things clean and updated within 30 minutes. Multiway Backbone with 3 Partners (typically 220 Mhz regional channel) Your partner station should be a locked route with quality of 203. Accept incoming nodes from your partner with minimum quality of 63. Initial (Default) Obsolescence at 5 Minimum Obsolescence to 2 Nodes Broadcast Interval 900 seconds (15 minutes) The obsolescence count will start at 5 and decrement by 1 every 15 minute cycle and stop when it hits 2 if there is no refresh from your partner station. This keeps things clean and updated within 45 minutes. This allows for occasional transmitter collisions between partners. NOTE: current practice is to set minimum quality values at 150 or 180 is only to mitigate the effect of mislabeled nodes qualities broadcast to partner systems that get propagated. There are several systems that make all of the nodes in their table higher than they should be. When the network is cleaned out and realigned, then the minimum quality can be adjusted downward. How are node qualities adjusted when the nodes table is passed around the network from partner to partner? *** ONLY WHAT IS ON YOUR PHYSICAL BOX OR WIRED LAN SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN 203 *** Initial partner quality is 203 (out of 256) or 203/256 First hop between AXIP partners is 203/256 * 203/256 or 161/256 Second hop between AXIP partners is 161/256 * 203/256 or 128/256 Third hop between AXIP partners is 128/256 * 203/256 or 101/256 Fourth hop between AXIP partners is 101/256 * 203/256 or 80/256 Fifth hop between AXIP partners is 80/256 * 203/256 or 63/256 -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From n2nov at n2nov.net Wed Jan 6 16:04:46 2021 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 16:04:46 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] HamGateNY Archives Message-ID: <97b3802f-b5d3-4dc2-6541-3a35acdb306e@n2nov.net> Looking for past messages that you may have missed or deleted by mistake? http://n2nov.net/pipermail/hamgateny_n2nov.net/ -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From ab2vy at yahoo.com Wed Jan 6 16:15:43 2021 From: ab2vy at yahoo.com (Giulio AB2VY) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 13:15:43 -0800 Subject: [HamGateNY] HamGateNY Archives In-Reply-To: <97b3802f-b5d3-4dc2-6541-3a35acdb306e@n2nov.net> References: <97b3802f-b5d3-4dc2-6541-3a35acdb306e@n2nov.net> Message-ID: <050375cc-58ea-b3da-53bd-886583505658@yahoo.com> Thanks Charles On 1/6/21 1:04 PM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote: > Looking for past messages that you may have missed or deleted by mistake? > > http://n2nov.net/pipermail/hamgateny_n2nov.net/ > -- Giulio Pezzi AB2VY http://www.qsl.net/ab2vy/ email1:ab2vy at yahoo.com email2:ab2vy at amsat.org Amprnet:ab2vy at mail.ab2vy.ampr.org AX25 Packet Radio: AB2VY at VE2PKT.#QBC.QC.CAN.NOAM 91403 Sherman Oaks,CA Locator: DM04SD United States Qrv on D-STAR REF020A -------------------------- Giulio Pezzi Department of Computer Science - Network Research Lab University of California Los Angeles 3803A Boelter Hall 420 Westwood Plaza Los Angeles, CA, USA 90095-1596 Office Ph: +1 (310) 206 3212 Office Fax: +1 (310) 825 7578 http://nrlweb.cs.ucla.edu/nrlweb/ e-mail: gpezzi at nrl.cs.ucla.edu ---------------------------- "One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries." -- A.A. Milne From w9jun at drdonporter.com Thu Jan 7 10:50:20 2021 From: w9jun at drdonporter.com (DonP) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 09:50:20 -0600 Subject: [HamGateNY] Netrom Quality Message-ID: Good day.. So where in the autoexec.nos are these settings affected? http://n2nov.net/pipermail/hamgateny_n2nov.net/2020-December/000250.html -- Don - John 3:16 w9jun at w9jun.ampr.org w9jun at w9jun.#sein.in.usa.noam My Ebooks: https://www.amazon.com/~/e/B083RN6GMC https://drdonporter.com/w9jun/ From bwebster at stny.rr.com Mon Jan 11 13:25:24 2021 From: bwebster at stny.rr.com (Brian Webster) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:25:24 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Port Jervis area 2 meter packet coverage Message-ID: <098801d6e847$216b4ad0$6441e070$@stny.rr.com> Who on the list was located in the Southern Edge of the Catskills near Port Jervis. I just happened to discover there is a station KC2YYF using Winlink on 145.070. I was able to get connected to it via the WA2PNU FlexNet Node in Huntington LI. 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I was able to get connected to it via the WA2PNU FlexNet Node in Huntington LI. The station is in Otisville as far as I can tell from the QRZ lookup. The call to connect to is KC2YYF-10 and it's a WinLink gateway. Thank You, Brian Webster N2KGC Cooperstown. NY -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bwebster at stny.rr.com Mon Jan 11 15:00:45 2021 From: bwebster at stny.rr.com (Brian Webster) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:00:45 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Port Jervis area 2 meter packet coverage In-Reply-To: References: <098801d6e847$216b4ad0$6441e070$@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <0a3001d6e854$734b7430$59e25c90$@stny.rr.com> I am not sure who is responsible for it but I recall a discussion with one of list members that they could not find any packet activity in their area. I thought it was along the RT 209 valley they were discussing, Ulster or Orange county, not quite sure. I just found it interesting that today I could connect to that station from a node that is on Long Island. Thank You, Brian Webster N2KGC Cooperstown. NY From: HamGateNY [mailto:hamgateny-bounces at n2nov.net] On Behalf Of Joe Cupano Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:40 PM To: hamgateny at n2nov.net Subject: Re: [HamGateNY] Port Jervis area 2 meter packet coverage Probably part of OCARES/RACES Brian Webster: Who on the list was located in the Southern Edge of the Catskills near Port Jervis. I just happened to discover there is a station KC2YYF using Winlink on 145.070. I was able to get connected to it via the WA2PNU FlexNet Node in Huntington LI. The station is in Otisville as far as I can tell from the QRZ lookup. The call to connect to is KC2YYF-10 and it's a WinLink gateway. Thank You, Brian Webster N2KGC Cooperstown. NY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at cupano.com Mon Jan 11 16:07:42 2021 From: joe at cupano.com (Joe Cupano) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 16:07:42 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Port Jervis area 2 meter packet coverage In-Reply-To: <0a3001d6e854$734b7430$59e25c90$@stny.rr.com> References: <098801d6e847$216b4ad0$6441e070$@stny.rr.com> <0a3001d6e854$734b7430$59e25c90$@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Packet is pretty much dead in Orange County for quite some time. You will see APRS activity Brian Webster: > > I am not sure who is responsible for it but I recall a discussion with > one of list members that they could not find any packet activity in > their area. I thought it was along the RT 209 valley they were > discussing, Ulster or Orange county, not quite sure. I just found it > interesting that today I could connect to that station from a node > that is on Long Island. > > ? > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster N2KGC > > Cooperstown. NY > > ? > > *From:*HamGateNY [mailto:hamgateny-bounces at n2nov.net] *On Behalf Of > *Joe Cupano > *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2021 1:40 PM > *To:* hamgateny at n2nov.net > *Subject:* Re: [HamGateNY] Port Jervis area 2 meter packet coverage > > ? > > > Probably part of OCARES/RACES > > Brian Webster: > > Who on the list was located in the Southern Edge of the Catskills > near Port Jervis. I just happened to discover there is a station > KC2YYF using Winlink on 145.070. I was able to get connected to it > via the WA2PNU FlexNet Node in Huntington LI. The station is in > Otisville as far as I can tell from the QRZ lookup. The call to > connect to is KC2YYF-10 and it?s a WinLink gateway. > > ? > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster N2KGC > > Cooperstown. NY > > ? > > ? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From anpepper at gmail.com Fri Jan 15 20:28:49 2021 From: anpepper at gmail.com (Andrew Pepper) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 20:28:49 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] 9600 baud tnc recommendations In-Reply-To: <3ccadcf4-9a0d-2682-4fd0-33dd5fdf4fa7@gmail.com> References: <3ccadcf4-9a0d-2682-4fd0-33dd5fdf4fa7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1ca6f8d2-9638-9dea-88de-7d40ac10ed83@gmail.com> What is everyone using for 9k6 tnc's these days? I see Coastal Chipworks sold to MFJ and it does not look like MFJ are selling the raspberry PI Pi9k6 version. It would have been nice to stack a 1200 & 9600 onto a PI making a nice setup. What's left, the Timewave PK-96? -- Andrew K1YMI / GM1YMI BBS: Telnet://cosmikdebris.ddns.net:2323 From n2nov at n2nov.net Tue Jan 19 23:56:48 2021 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:56:48 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] NetRom Tutorial Document Added Message-ID: I just uploaded a basic NetRom Tutorial PDF on the website. http://hamgateny.n2nov.net/NetRomTutorial.pdf I need to compile how each bbs software config file handles NetRom. I already have JNOS (naturally), but I need FBB, Xrouter, XNet, BPQ, UROnode, Flexnet and any others that I may not have mentioned. This way I can create a step-by-step sheet for each to put on the website. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From w2dab at w2dab.com Wed Jan 20 09:55:45 2021 From: w2dab at w2dab.com (W2DAB) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 09:55:45 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] NetRom Tutorial Document Added In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C510D65-E7D3-4C9B-93CE-57204ADB9075@w2dab.com> Thanks for that, I need to get up to speed! Dave W2DAB > On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:57 PM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote: > > ?I just uploaded a basic NetRom Tutorial PDF on the website. > > http://hamgateny.n2nov.net/NetRomTutorial.pdf > > I need to compile how each bbs software config file handles NetRom. > I already have JNOS (naturally), but I need FBB, Xrouter, XNet, BPQ, > UROnode, Flexnet and any others that I may not have mentioned. This > way I can create a step-by-step sheet for each to put on the website. > > -- > Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV > NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. > > NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL > ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM > NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM > http://www.nyc-arecs.org > > NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM > on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 > > "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped > by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan > > "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus > > "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying > (The work praises the man.) > > "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it > provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan > From aly at al0y.com Wed Jan 20 11:21:53 2021 From: aly at al0y.com (Aly Badawy AL0Y) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 11:21:53 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] NetRom Tutorial Document Added In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CD87DF5-792A-4F02-A491-B1AA2F362704@al0y.com> Charles, I have used both BPQ and xRouter. I will send you the requested information for those two later tonight. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:57 PM, Charles J. Hargrove wrote: > > ?I just uploaded a basic NetRom Tutorial PDF on the website. > > http://hamgateny.n2nov.net/NetRomTutorial.pdf > > I need to compile how each bbs software config file handles NetRom. > I already have JNOS (naturally), but I need FBB, Xrouter, XNet, BPQ, > UROnode, Flexnet and any others that I may not have mentioned. This > way I can create a step-by-step sheet for each to put on the website. > > -- > Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV > NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. > > NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL > ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM > NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM > http://www.nyc-arecs.org > > NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM > on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 > > "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped > by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan > > "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus > > "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying > (The work praises the man.) > > "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it > provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n2nov at n2nov.net Wed Jan 20 12:33:03 2021 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:33:03 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Are You Overdriving The Radio? Message-ID: <75be02fa-01da-8376-7697-e6350d3a6f9f@n2nov.net> Setting Your TNC's Audio Drive Level https://www.febo.com/packet/layer-one/transmit.html This is still a valid concern for soundcard modems. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From bwebster at stny.rr.com Thu Jan 21 14:09:38 2021 From: bwebster at stny.rr.com (Brian Webster) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:09:38 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] Nice video about message and BBS traffic forwarding Message-ID: <101d01d6f028$f765cb90$e63162b0$@stny.rr.com> This video is specific to BBQ BBS's but the routing and forwarding considerations are the same for all BBS systems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_2mjXK5quU Thank You, Brian Webster N2KGC Cooperstown. NY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerome.kutche at lehighhanson.com Fri Jan 22 04:49:28 2021 From: jerome.kutche at lehighhanson.com (Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 09:49:28 +0000 Subject: [HamGateNY] Nice video about message and BBS traffic forwarding In-Reply-To: <101d01d6f028$f765cb90$e63162b0$@stny.rr.com> References: <101d01d6f028$f765cb90$e63162b0$@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Nice video... Just FYI.. I am considering going 100% RF. As far as message forwarding..? Not yet decided... Up until 2005 I was RF 100% I think I have enough HF Forwarding partners.. I may try that again.. If so I will keep all links but simply turn off AXIP forwarding.. If I decide to. I will put out a Bulletin well in advance. 73 Jerry N9LYA From: HamGateNY [mailto:hamgateny-bounces at n2nov.net] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:10 PM To: 44Net Sysops in NY State Subject: [HamGateNY] Nice video about message and BBS traffic forwarding This video is specific to BBQ BBS's but the routing and forwarding considerations are the same for all BBS systems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_2mjXK5quU Thank You, Brian Webster N2KGC Cooperstown. NY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerome.kutche at lehighhanson.com Fri Jan 22 05:01:40 2021 From: jerome.kutche at lehighhanson.com (Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:01:40 +0000 Subject: [HamGateNY] Nice video about message and BBS traffic forwarding In-Reply-To: <101d01d6f028$f765cb90$e63162b0$@stny.rr.com> References: <101d01d6f028$f765cb90$e63162b0$@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Hey can I share this... Again I have made no decision on eliminating AXIP Forwarding. Was just something I was asked to consider.. Have a great day. 73 jerry From: HamGateNY [mailto:hamgateny-bounces at n2nov.net] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:10 PM To: 44Net Sysops in NY State Subject: [HamGateNY] Nice video about message and BBS traffic forwarding This video is specific to BBQ BBS's but the routing and forwarding considerations are the same for all BBS systems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_2mjXK5quU Thank You, Brian Webster N2KGC Cooperstown. NY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n2nov at n2nov.net Wed Jan 27 10:43:36 2021 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNY] County Populations in NY State Message-ID: <9f45bfab-a233-b589-029b-7bd1700a854f@n2nov.net> Is your county servicing a growing or shrinking population? How many radio operators and who are data messaging capable? That's why the need to build the infrastructure and train ops. You can't rely on the government to do it. We have to be ready. https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/states/ny -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 147.360/107.2 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan