From n2nov at n2nov.net  Tue Dec 20 17:12:18 2016
From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles Hargrove)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:12:18 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
Message-ID: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>

I put together this private mailing list so that all of you can discuss
pertinent issues in getting your systems on the air (RF) and on the 44Net.

We have allocations from all over NY State:
    44.68.0.0 / 16 - New York State
        44.68.20.0 / 29 - KE4FSK - Jefferson Co.
        44.68.41.0 / 24 - N2NOV - NYC Boroughs
            44.68.41.64 / 27 - KC2QHV
        44.68.48.0 / 29 - W2DAB
        44.68.64.0 / 24 - KD2DYC - Suffolk Co.
        44.68.84.0 / 29 - N2OJJ - Orange Co.
        44.68.86.0 / 29 - NE2Z - Orange Co. HSMM Experimentation
        44.68.88.0 / 27 - K2PUT - Putnam Co. - Hudson Valley EastNet
        44.68.100.0 / 29 - N1QOF - Saratoga Co.
        44.68.112.0 / 27 - KD2HEK - Ulster Co.
        44.68.172.0 / 28 - KC2UGV - Erie Co.
        44.68.192.0 / 29 - WZ2B - Monroe Co.
        44.68.204.0 / 28 - K2EXE - Onondaga Co.
        44.68.220.0 / 28 - N2KGC - Otsego Co.

As you can see, while there are quite a few counties on this list, there
are many more of the 62 NY State counties that are missing.  We are in the
beginning stages of rebuilding the amateur radio messaging infrastructure for
New York.  These messages will serve the general ham population, their served
agencies and NGOs as well as the general public through NTS radiograms.

For this to happen, we need to get every single system listed on the gateway
list, the domain name server and interconnected to each other for bulletin
and private message routing.  So far I show only 10 systems on the gateway
list, 4 on the DNS list and some that are listed are just not reachable!
It does no good to have an allocation and to let it languish.

Let us all determine to help each other in 2017.  I have always gone by
the word TEAM - Together Everyone Achieves More.


--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org

NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

"We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
act only by permission." - Ayn Rand




From w2dab at w2dab.com  Tue Dec 20 17:14:02 2016
From: w2dab at w2dab.com (David Bamford)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:14:02 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
Message-ID: <B861D14B-7A3E-467D-92CB-7FFDCFDAA088@w2dab.com>

Thank you Charles.


Dave
W2DAB


> On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Charles Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:
> 
> I put together this private mailing list so that all of you can discuss
> pertinent issues in getting your systems on the air (RF) and on the 44Net.
> 
> We have allocations from all over NY State:
>    44.68.0.0 / 16 - New York State
>        44.68.20.0 / 29 - KE4FSK - Jefferson Co.
>        44.68.41.0 / 24 - N2NOV - NYC Boroughs
>            44.68.41.64 / 27 - KC2QHV
>        44.68.48.0 / 29 - W2DAB
>        44.68.64.0 / 24 - KD2DYC - Suffolk Co.
>        44.68.84.0 / 29 - N2OJJ - Orange Co.
>        44.68.86.0 / 29 - NE2Z - Orange Co. HSMM Experimentation
>        44.68.88.0 / 27 - K2PUT - Putnam Co. - Hudson Valley EastNet
>        44.68.100.0 / 29 - N1QOF - Saratoga Co.
>        44.68.112.0 / 27 - KD2HEK - Ulster Co.
>        44.68.172.0 / 28 - KC2UGV - Erie Co.
>        44.68.192.0 / 29 - WZ2B - Monroe Co.
>        44.68.204.0 / 28 - K2EXE - Onondaga Co.
>        44.68.220.0 / 28 - N2KGC - Otsego Co.
> 
> As you can see, while there are quite a few counties on this list, there
> are many more of the 62 NY State counties that are missing.  We are in the
> beginning stages of rebuilding the amateur radio messaging infrastructure for
> New York.  These messages will serve the general ham population, their served
> agencies and NGOs as well as the general public through NTS radiograms.
> 
> For this to happen, we need to get every single system listed on the gateway
> list, the domain name server and interconnected to each other for bulletin
> and private message routing.  So far I show only 10 systems on the gateway
> list, 4 on the DNS list and some that are listed are just not reachable!
> It does no good to have an allocation and to let it languish.
> 
> Let us all determine to help each other in 2017.  I have always gone by
> the word TEAM - Together Everyone Achieves More.
> 
> 
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
> 
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
> 
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
> 
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
> 
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
> 
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> (The work praises the man.)
> 
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
> 
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
> 
> 
> 




From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 08:58:27 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:58:27 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
Message-ID: <CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>

For what it's worth, I am using my allocation at this time, however, I am a
bubble in a sea of void :)

I'm only looking to do IP-over-RF links with this space, however, should
someone make a good argument to the contrary, I'd be open to doing so.

At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
is 44.68.172.1.
The BBS also listens on a couple of internet available IP's as well.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Charles Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:

> I put together this private mailing list so that all of you can discuss
> pertinent issues in getting your systems on the air (RF) and on the 44Net.
>
> We have allocations from all over NY State:
>     44.68.0.0 / 16 - New York State
>         44.68.20.0 / 29 - KE4FSK - Jefferson Co.
>         44.68.41.0 / 24 - N2NOV - NYC Boroughs
>             44.68.41.64 / 27 - KC2QHV
>         44.68.48.0 / 29 - W2DAB
>         44.68.64.0 / 24 - KD2DYC - Suffolk Co.
>         44.68.84.0 / 29 - N2OJJ - Orange Co.
>         44.68.86.0 / 29 - NE2Z - Orange Co. HSMM Experimentation
>         44.68.88.0 / 27 - K2PUT - Putnam Co. - Hudson Valley EastNet
>         44.68.100.0 / 29 - N1QOF - Saratoga Co.
>         44.68.112.0 / 27 - KD2HEK - Ulster Co.
>         44.68.172.0 / 28 - KC2UGV - Erie Co.
>         44.68.192.0 / 29 - WZ2B - Monroe Co.
>         44.68.204.0 / 28 - K2EXE - Onondaga Co.
>         44.68.220.0 / 28 - N2KGC - Otsego Co.
>
> As you can see, while there are quite a few counties on this list, there
> are many more of the 62 NY State counties that are missing.  We are in the
> beginning stages of rebuilding the amateur radio messaging infrastructure
> for
> New York.  These messages will serve the general ham population, their
> served
> agencies and NGOs as well as the general public through NTS radiograms.
>
> For this to happen, we need to get every single system listed on the
> gateway
> list, the domain name server and interconnected to each other for bulletin
> and private message routing.  So far I show only 10 systems on the gateway
> list, 4 on the DNS list and some that are listed are just not reachable!
> It does no good to have an allocation and to let it languish.
>
> Let us all determine to help each other in 2017.  I have always gone by
> the word TEAM - Together Everyone Achieves More.
>
>
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
> topped
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> (The work praises the man.)
>
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>
>
>
>
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From n2nov at n2nov.net  Wed Dec 21 10:14:14 2016
From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles Hargrove)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:14:14 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
	<CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3423fc5b6e9d6a1557e223cfe0332e6c.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>

With so many systems not within RF range of each other, the initial transfer
of messages would be via IP Encap over the internet.  The ability of a
particular system to provide incoming/outgoing messaging service will be a
selling point to users.  I liken it to when there were individual dial-up
systems around me in the 1980's that required me to check them all each
evening looking for messages.  Once the FidoNet system came on board, I could
log onto my local system and route a message to another system.  The FidoNet
systems had scheduled times to swap messages for storage or further routing
to another BBS.

Today, we find our packet BBS nodes as little islands that need to reach out
to each other.  The ability to use AX25 or TCP/IP can be used on RF as well
as the internet.  If all we have available is the internet, then why not
perfect our routing techniques there so that we can duplicate it on RF when
the opportunity arises.  Ultimately, we would want to have everything working
on RF so that we can still function when our connection to the internet goes
down locally or regionally.

BTW, I would like to compare notes on your Mystic BBS with JNOS and other
systems.  Let's see where we can already interface and what features we can
all borrow from each other.


On Wed, December 21, 2016 8:58 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> For what it's worth, I am using my allocation at this time, however, I am a
>  bubble in a sea of void :)
>
> I'm only looking to do IP-over-RF links with this space, however, should
> someone make a good argument to the contrary, I'd be open to doing so.
>
> At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> is 44.68.172.1. The BBS also listens on a couple of internet available IP's
> as well.


--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org

NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

"We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
act only by permission." - Ayn Rand




From n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org  Wed Dec 21 10:45:52 2016
From: n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org (Brian)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:45:52 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
	<CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1482335152.29477.4.camel@n1uro>

Which sites are available? I'd be happy to include them in my weekly IP
bulletin.


On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 08:58 -0500, Corey Reichle wrote:
> For what it's worth, I am using my allocation at this time, however, I
> am a bubble in a sea of void :)
> 
> I'm only looking to do IP-over-RF links with this space, however,
> should someone make a good argument to the contrary, I'd be open to
> doing so.
> 
> 
> At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> is 44.68.172.1.  The BBS also listens on a couple of internet
> available IP's as well.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Charles Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net>
> wrote:
>         I put together this private mailing list so that all of you
>         can discuss
>         pertinent issues in getting your systems on the air (RF) and
>         on the 44Net.
>         
>         We have allocations from all over NY State:
>             44.68.0.0 / 16 - New York State
>                 44.68.20.0 / 29 - KE4FSK - Jefferson Co.
>                 44.68.41.0 / 24 - N2NOV - NYC Boroughs
>                     44.68.41.64 / 27 - KC2QHV
>                 44.68.48.0 / 29 - W2DAB
>                 44.68.64.0 / 24 - KD2DYC - Suffolk Co.
>                 44.68.84.0 / 29 - N2OJJ - Orange Co.
>                 44.68.86.0 / 29 - NE2Z - Orange Co. HSMM
>         Experimentation
>                 44.68.88.0 / 27 - K2PUT - Putnam Co. - Hudson Valley
>         EastNet
>                 44.68.100.0 / 29 - N1QOF - Saratoga Co.
>                 44.68.112.0 / 27 - KD2HEK - Ulster Co.
>                 44.68.172.0 / 28 - KC2UGV - Erie Co.
>                 44.68.192.0 / 29 - WZ2B - Monroe Co.
>                 44.68.204.0 / 28 - K2EXE - Onondaga Co.
>                 44.68.220.0 / 28 - N2KGC - Otsego Co.
>         
>         As you can see, while there are quite a few counties on this
>         list, there
>         are many more of the 62 NY State counties that are missing.
>         We are in the
>         beginning stages of rebuilding the amateur radio messaging
>         infrastructure for
>         New York.  These messages will serve the general ham
>         population, their served
>         agencies and NGOs as well as the general public through NTS
>         radiograms.
>         
>         For this to happen, we need to get every single system listed
>         on the gateway
>         list, the domain name server and interconnected to each other
>         for bulletin
>         and private message routing.  So far I show only 10 systems on
>         the gateway
>         list, 4 on the DNS list and some that are listed are just not
>         reachable!
>         It does no good to have an allocation and to let it languish.
>         
>         Let us all determine to help each other in 2017.  I have
>         always gone by
>         the word TEAM - Together Everyone Achieves More.
>         
>         
>         --
>         Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
>         NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>         
>         NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
>         http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>         
>         NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @
>         7PM
>         on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500
>         check-ins
>         
>         "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through
>         the walls topped
>         by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." -
>         Ronald Reagan
>         
>         "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." -
>         Tacitus
>         
>         "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
>         (The work praises the man.)
>         
>         "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many
>         services it
>         provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald
>         Reagan
>         
>         "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the
>         stage where
>         the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the
>         citizens may
>         act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>         
>         
>         
> 
> 

-- 

73 de Brian - N1URO
email: (see above)
Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
Linux Amateur Radio Services
axMail-Fax & URONode
http://uronode.sourceforge.net
http://axmail.sourceforge.net
AmprNet coordinator for:
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
Maryland, Massachusetts, 
New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, 
Rhode Island, and Vermont.
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From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 10:45:57 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:45:57 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <3423fc5b6e9d6a1557e223cfe0332e6c.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
	<CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALvFBuw2T5pPtXFUg7Gyb3=hg5Wx=ADoJfhuvRcmvUqDomapRg@mail.gmail.com>

So, I'm going to ask this, since we're exploring IP-IP routes...  Who holds
the gateway for NYS?

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Charles Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:

> With so many systems not within RF range of each other, the initial
> transfer
> of messages would be via IP Encap over the internet.  The ability of a
> particular system to provide incoming/outgoing messaging service will be a
> selling point to users.  I liken it to when there were individual dial-up
> systems around me in the 1980's that required me to check them all each
> evening looking for messages.  Once the FidoNet system came on board, I
> could
> log onto my local system and route a message to another system.  The
> FidoNet
> systems had scheduled times to swap messages for storage or further routing
> to another BBS.
>
> Today, we find our packet BBS nodes as little islands that need to reach
> out
> to each other.  The ability to use AX25 or TCP/IP can be used on RF as well
> as the internet.  If all we have available is the internet, then why not
> perfect our routing techniques there so that we can duplicate it on RF when
> the opportunity arises.  Ultimately, we would want to have everything
> working
> on RF so that we can still function when our connection to the internet
> goes
> down locally or regionally.
>
> BTW, I would like to compare notes on your Mystic BBS with JNOS and other
> systems.  Let's see where we can already interface and what features we can
> all borrow from each other.
>
>
> On Wed, December 21, 2016 8:58 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > For what it's worth, I am using my allocation at this time, however, I
> am a
> >  bubble in a sea of void :)
> >
> > I'm only looking to do IP-over-RF links with this space, however, should
> > someone make a good argument to the contrary, I'd be open to doing so.
> >
> > At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> > is 44.68.172.1. The BBS also listens on a couple of internet available
> IP's
> > as well.
>
>
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
> topped
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> (The work praises the man.)
>
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>
>
>
>
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From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 10:52:09 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:52:09 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <1482335152.29477.4.camel@n1uro>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
	<CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1482335152.29477.4.camel@n1uro>
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Not sure what you mean?  Which services are listening on which IP's?  If
so, port 80 and 23 are listening at 44.68.172.2.  Both are the same thing
as bbs.solarpi.net and (www.|bbs.)?solarpi.net

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Brian <n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org> wrote:

> Which sites are available? I'd be happy to include them in my weekly IP
> bulletin.
>
>
> On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 08:58 -0500, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > For what it's worth, I am using my allocation at this time, however, I
> > am a bubble in a sea of void :)
> >
> > I'm only looking to do IP-over-RF links with this space, however,
> > should someone make a good argument to the contrary, I'd be open to
> > doing so.
> >
> >
> > At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> > is 44.68.172.1.  The BBS also listens on a couple of internet
> > available IP's as well.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Charles Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net>
> > wrote:
> >         I put together this private mailing list so that all of you
> >         can discuss
> >         pertinent issues in getting your systems on the air (RF) and
> >         on the 44Net.
> >
> >         We have allocations from all over NY State:
> >             44.68.0.0 / 16 - New York State
> >                 44.68.20.0 / 29 - KE4FSK - Jefferson Co.
> >                 44.68.41.0 / 24 - N2NOV - NYC Boroughs
> >                     44.68.41.64 / 27 - KC2QHV
> >                 44.68.48.0 / 29 - W2DAB
> >                 44.68.64.0 / 24 - KD2DYC - Suffolk Co.
> >                 44.68.84.0 / 29 - N2OJJ - Orange Co.
> >                 44.68.86.0 / 29 - NE2Z - Orange Co. HSMM
> >         Experimentation
> >                 44.68.88.0 / 27 - K2PUT - Putnam Co. - Hudson Valley
> >         EastNet
> >                 44.68.100.0 / 29 - N1QOF - Saratoga Co.
> >                 44.68.112.0 / 27 - KD2HEK - Ulster Co.
> >                 44.68.172.0 / 28 - KC2UGV - Erie Co.
> >                 44.68.192.0 / 29 - WZ2B - Monroe Co.
> >                 44.68.204.0 / 28 - K2EXE - Onondaga Co.
> >                 44.68.220.0 / 28 - N2KGC - Otsego Co.
> >
> >         As you can see, while there are quite a few counties on this
> >         list, there
> >         are many more of the 62 NY State counties that are missing.
> >         We are in the
> >         beginning stages of rebuilding the amateur radio messaging
> >         infrastructure for
> >         New York.  These messages will serve the general ham
> >         population, their served
> >         agencies and NGOs as well as the general public through NTS
> >         radiograms.
> >
> >         For this to happen, we need to get every single system listed
> >         on the gateway
> >         list, the domain name server and interconnected to each other
> >         for bulletin
> >         and private message routing.  So far I show only 10 systems on
> >         the gateway
> >         list, 4 on the DNS list and some that are listed are just not
> >         reachable!
> >         It does no good to have an allocation and to let it languish.
> >
> >         Let us all determine to help each other in 2017.  I have
> >         always gone by
> >         the word TEAM - Together Everyone Achieves More.
> >
> >
> >         --
> >         Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> >         NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
> >
> >         NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> >         http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
> >
> >         NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @
> >         7PM
> >         on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500
> >         check-ins
> >
> >         "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through
> >         the walls topped
> >         by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." -
> >         Ronald Reagan
> >
> >         "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." -
> >         Tacitus
> >
> >         "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> >         (The work praises the man.)
> >
> >         "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many
> >         services it
> >         provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald
> >         Reagan
> >
> >         "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the
> >         stage where
> >         the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the
> >         citizens may
> >         act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> 73 de Brian - N1URO
> email: (see above)
> Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
> Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
> Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
> Linux Amateur Radio Services
> axMail-Fax & URONode
> http://uronode.sourceforge.net
> http://axmail.sourceforge.net
> AmprNet coordinator for:
> Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
> Maryland, Massachusetts,
> New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
> Rhode Island, and Vermont.
>
>
>
>
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From n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org  Wed Dec 21 11:03:45 2016
From: n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org (Brian)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 11:03:45 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <CALvFBuwCVcZT+2OY1B27+U1rAGRrVu=dnPo3yBY2ca+yL2_6gQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1482336225.29477.6.camel@n1uro>

On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 10:52 -0500, Corey Reichle wrote:
> Not sure what you mean?  Which services are listening on which IP's?
> If so, port 80 and 23 are listening at 44.68.172.2.  Both are the same
> thing as bbs.solarpi.net and (www.|bbs.)?solarpi.net

Corey;

This is the bulletin:
n1uro at n1uro:~/Documents$ cat fbbampr.txt
************************* EastNet Packet Amprnet Network
******************
This list below is a listing of the EastNet Packet Network systems
either
reachable via amprnet and/or pingable on the amprnet. EastNet uses the
following softwares:
pc/FlexNet
URONode
axMail
FBB BBS
The EastNet Packet Amprnet Network is engineered and coordinated by
N1URO.
He may be reached at: n1uro at n1uro.#cct.ct.usa.noam/n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org
Amprnet coordination is handled on a volunteer basis by: N1URO, N2NOV,
G7LTT
and KD4YAL. Apologies in advance if anyone was left out. EastNet in a
nut-
shell are territories within the U.S.A. "east" of the Mississippi River.
pc/FlexNet uses no port as it uses IP for axip/axudp linkage over the
amprnet. URONode's default connect port is 3694. axMail uses the
standard
SMTP ports 25/445(TLS) while FBB may use almost any port or may not use
any at all. Some sites may choose to run other services such as a web
server.
***************************************************************************
Connecticut:

Unionville;
44.88.0.1 - gw.ct.ampr.org
44.88.0.9 - n1uro.ampr.org
44.88.0.10 - flexnet.n1uro.ampr.org
44.88.0.11 - nos.n1uro.ampr.org
44.88.0.12 - jnos.n1uro.ampr.org
44.88.0.14 - fedora.n1uro.ampr.org
44.88.0.20 - asterisk.n1uro.ampr.org

East Hartland;
44.88.4.1 - k1yon.ampr.org
44.88.4.2 - flexnet.k1yon.ampr.org

Glastonbury;
44.88.8.1 - w1edh.ampr.org
44.88.8.2 - flexnet.w1edh.ampr.org

Wallingford:
44.88.2.1 - k1lyp.ampr.org                      # Under construction
44.88.2.2 - flexnet.k1lyp.ampr.org              # Due up 17 Sept-ish

====================================================================
Massachusetts:
Middleborough;
44.44.10.33 - n1xtb.ampr.org
44.44.10.34 - flexnet.n1xtb.ampr.org

====================================================================
New Jersey:
Sayerville;
44.64.255.225 - wb2ona.ampr.org
44.64.255.226 - flexnet.wb2ona.ampr.org

===================================================================
New York:
Cooperstown;
44.68.220.1 - n2kgc.ampr.org
44.68.220.2 - flexnet.n2kgc.ampr.org

Onenta;
44.68.220.3 - w2rgi.ampr.org
44.68.220.4 - flexnet.w2rgi.ampr.org

Putnam;
44.68.88.1 - k2put.ampr.org
44.68.88.2 - flexnet.k2put.ampr.org

==================================================================
Florida:
Melbourne;
44.98.16.2 - w4mlb.ampr.org                     # offline by sysop
44.98.16.3 - flex.w4mlb.ampr.org                # offline by sysop
44.98.16.249 - n4smr.ampr.org                   # offline by sysop

Vero Beach;
44.98.16.4 - w4ot.ampr.org                      # power issues
44.98.16.5 - flexnet.w4ot.ampr.org              # known here
=======================================================================
*Other sites may exist on internet only or do not run pc/FlexNet.
**NY sites may be in process as of this writing

Last update: 2016, 09 December.
Author: N1URO

I'm not looking for specific services, just what's available via 44/8
for ecomm purposes.




-- 

73 de Brian - N1URO
email: (see above)
Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
Linux Amateur Radio Services
axMail-Fax & URONode
http://uronode.sourceforge.net
http://axmail.sourceforge.net
AmprNet coordinator for:
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
Maryland, Massachusetts, 
New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, 
Rhode Island, and Vermont.
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From n2nov at n2nov.net  Wed Dec 21 11:51:20 2016
From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles Hargrove)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 11:51:20 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <CALvFBuw2T5pPtXFUg7Gyb3=hg5Wx=ADoJfhuvRcmvUqDomapRg@mail.gmail.com>
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Do you mean the coordination responsibility or a physical gateway?

On Wed, December 21, 2016 10:45 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> So, I'm going to ask this, since we're exploring IP-IP routes...  Who holds
>  the gateway for NYS?


--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org

NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

"We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
act only by permission." - Ayn Rand




From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 11:59:05 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 11:59:05 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <4d24fe70f18bdb2b69b64429dd6bac12.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
	<CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<3423fc5b6e9d6a1557e223cfe0332e6c.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
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Message-ID: <CALvFBuwBKjnj83RF_edRq0wNBhd+gZcro+2U+skgaFgZCwG=NA@mail.gmail.com>

Physical gateway, unless we're all just routing right to ampr...  Which I
would think would be less than optimal, personally.  Primarily, due to if
ampr goes down, then the whole IP portion of our network would go down.

On Dec 21, 2016 11:51 AM, "Charles Hargrove" <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:

> Do you mean the coordination responsibility or a physical gateway?
>
> On Wed, December 21, 2016 10:45 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > So, I'm going to ask this, since we're exploring IP-IP routes...  Who
> holds
> >  the gateway for NYS?
>
>
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
> topped
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> (The work praises the man.)
>
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>
>
>
>
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From n2nov at n2nov.net  Wed Dec 21 12:03:16 2016
From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles Hargrove)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:03:16 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <CALvFBuwBKjnj83RF_edRq0wNBhd+gZcro+2U+skgaFgZCwG=NA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
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While there is concern that public-to-AMPR routing goes through UCSD,
there are some who are floating their own BGP for their AMPR subnets.
In fact, there is some investigation going on to do the same for NY.
In the meantime, encap routing is done between stations as well as UCSD.
Even if UCSD goes down, individual stations can still encap to each other.

On Wed, December 21, 2016 11:59 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> Physical gateway, unless we're all just routing right to ampr...  Which I
> would think would be less than optimal, personally.  Primarily, due to if
> ampr goes down, then the whole IP portion of our network would go down.


--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org

NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

"We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
act only by permission." - Ayn Rand




From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 12:07:55 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:07:55 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <bec9546fb9598e3dd31e728e8b33cdbe.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
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Message-ID: <CALvFBuwvACxncLknGC=FhuDBScj36e6efZMT-UL1z+y_g98v1w@mail.gmail.com>

I suppose I should clarify: I believe optimally, there should be only a few
stations with routes to uscd.  Other stations could route using NYS
stations, instead of having a whole bunch of interlinking routes between a
bunch of stations, which could cause perf issues with the routing table, as
well as opening the possibility of routing loops.

But, jm2c, and that's only worth 2 cents :)

On Dec 21, 2016 12:03 PM, "Charles Hargrove" <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:

> While there is concern that public-to-AMPR routing goes through UCSD,
> there are some who are floating their own BGP for their AMPR subnets.
> In fact, there is some investigation going on to do the same for NY.
> In the meantime, encap routing is done between stations as well as UCSD.
> Even if UCSD goes down, individual stations can still encap to each other.
>
> On Wed, December 21, 2016 11:59 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > Physical gateway, unless we're all just routing right to ampr...  Which I
> > would think would be less than optimal, personally.  Primarily, due to if
> > ampr goes down, then the whole IP portion of our network would go down.
>
>
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
> topped
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> (The work praises the man.)
>
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>
>
>
>
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From joe at cupano.com  Thu Dec 22 20:16:20 2016
From: joe at cupano.com (Joe Cupano)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 20:16:20 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <CALvFBuxdPe0tnO-8bhsQ4k7XnrZiwyagyz0AFXwvC7B1ksksZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
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Message-ID: <a8201931-fd86-50a6-f83e-9d1acd925e45@cupano.com>

Hi Corey,

Very interested in how you configured Mystic BBS to be packet accessible.
I've had limited success in stripping out the ANSI

73,

- Joe, NE2Z



On 12/21/2016 08:58 AM, Corey Reichle wrote:
> For what it's worth, I am using my allocation at this time, however, I
> am a bubble in a sea of void :)
>
> I'm only looking to do IP-over-RF links with this space, however,
> should someone make a good argument to the contrary, I'd be open to
> doing so.
>
> At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> is 44.68.172.1.  The BBS also listens on a couple of internet
> available IP's as well.





From n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org  Thu Dec 22 23:19:10 2016
From: n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org (Brian)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 23:19:10 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <a8201931-fd86-50a6-f83e-9d1acd925e45@cupano.com>
References: <21a503d67e094114df976e7dc1e7a7e7.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
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	<a8201931-fd86-50a6-f83e-9d1acd925e45@cupano.com>
Message-ID: <1482466750.5358.9.camel@n1uro>

Hello Corey;

> > At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> > is 44.68.172.1.  The BBS also listens on a couple of internet
> > available IP's as well.

Is your system available from the flexnet network by chance? I'd like to
see it.

-- 

73 de Brian - N1URO
email: (see above)
Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
Linux Amateur Radio Services
axMail-Fax & URONode
http://uronode.sourceforge.net
http://axmail.sourceforge.net
AmprNet coordinator for:
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
Maryland, Massachusetts, 
New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, 
Rhode Island, and Vermont.
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From cryptographrix at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 07:46:39 2016
From: cryptographrix at gmail.com (Cryptographrix)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:46:39 +0000
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
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As I understand, since my (KC2QHV) subnet space is within N2NOV's, I should
be connecting to his IP-IP connection for routing back to UCSD, correct?

- Michael


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:08 PM Corey Reichle <coreyreichle at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I suppose I should clarify: I believe optimally, there should be only a
> few stations with routes to uscd.  Other stations could route using NYS
> stations, instead of having a whole bunch of interlinking routes between a
> bunch of stations, which could cause perf issues with the routing table, as
> well as opening the possibility of routing loops.
>
> But, jm2c, and that's only worth 2 cents :)
>
> On Dec 21, 2016 12:03 PM, "Charles Hargrove" <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:
>
> While there is concern that public-to-AMPR routing goes through UCSD,
>
>
> there are some who are floating their own BGP for their AMPR subnets.
>
>
> In fact, there is some investigation going on to do the same for NY.
>
>
> In the meantime, encap routing is done between stations as well as UCSD.
>
>
> Even if UCSD goes down, individual stations can still encap to each other.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, December 21, 2016 11:59 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
>
>
> > Physical gateway, unless we're all just routing right to ampr...  Which I
>
>
> > would think would be less than optimal, personally.  Primarily, due to if
>
>
> > ampr goes down, then the whole IP portion of our network would go down.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
>
>
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>
>
>
>
>
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
>
>
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>
>
>
>
>
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
>
>
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>
>
>
>
>
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
> topped
>
>
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>
>
>
>
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>
>
>
>
>
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
>
>
> (The work praises the man.)
>
>
>
>
>
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
>
>
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>
>
>
>
>
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
>
>
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
>
>
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>
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From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 07:52:16 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:52:16 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
In-Reply-To: <1482466750.5358.9.camel@n1uro>
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I do not believe so...  If by "Flexnet" you mean over straight AX25, I have
one route to KC2LAS-10, so if you can reach that host, you can reach mine
with a via.

I have no IP routing in place, although, the machine it's running on does
in fact, have the AX25 stack pointing there, so if you are on 145.010 in
the area, and you ping the address over the VHF link, it will reply.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Brian <n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org> wrote:

> Hello Corey;
>
> > > At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> > > is 44.68.172.1.  The BBS also listens on a couple of internet
> > > available IP's as well.
>
> Is your system available from the flexnet network by chance? I'd like to
> see it.
>
> --
>
> 73 de Brian - N1URO
> email: (see above)
> Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
> Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
> Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
> Linux Amateur Radio Services
> axMail-Fax & URONode
> http://uronode.sourceforge.net
> http://axmail.sourceforge.net
> AmprNet coordinator for:
> Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
> Maryland, Massachusetts,
> New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
> Rhode Island, and Vermont.
>
>
>
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From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 07:52:30 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:52:30 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Welcome NY State 44Net Sysops
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I would like to know this as well.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Cryptographrix <cryptographrix at gmail.com>
wrote:

> As I understand, since my (KC2QHV) subnet space is within N2NOV's, I
> should be connecting to his IP-IP connection for routing back to UCSD,
> correct?
>
> - Michael
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:08 PM Corey Reichle <coreyreichle at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I suppose I should clarify: I believe optimally, there should be only a
>> few stations with routes to uscd.  Other stations could route using NYS
>> stations, instead of having a whole bunch of interlinking routes between a
>> bunch of stations, which could cause perf issues with the routing table, as
>> well as opening the possibility of routing loops.
>>
>> But, jm2c, and that's only worth 2 cents :)
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2016 12:03 PM, "Charles Hargrove" <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:
>>
>> While there is concern that public-to-AMPR routing goes through UCSD,
>>
>>
>> there are some who are floating their own BGP for their AMPR subnets.
>>
>>
>> In fact, there is some investigation going on to do the same for NY.
>>
>>
>> In the meantime, encap routing is done between stations as well as UCSD.
>>
>>
>> Even if UCSD goes down, individual stations can still encap to each other.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, December 21, 2016 11:59 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Physical gateway, unless we're all just routing right to ampr...  Which
>> I
>>
>>
>> > would think would be less than optimal, personally.  Primarily, due to
>> if
>>
>>
>> > ampr goes down, then the whole IP portion of our network would go down.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
>>
>>
>> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
>>
>>
>> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
>>
>>
>> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
>> topped
>>
>>
>> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
>>
>>
>> (The work praises the man.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
>>
>>
>> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
>>
>>
>> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
>>
>>
>> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>>
>>
>>
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From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 07:53:01 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:53:01 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Online Nodes
Message-ID: <CALvFBuxzSAJiPmfcWOmkAoQHRAi+DWe8xYnnAg4nHvPkwRrxpw@mail.gmail.com>

Changing subject, as we're diverging from the original topic there.

So, none of my services are routable outside of my block, due to no current
links.  However, I'd be happy to set up a B2B VPN to someone to route.


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Brian <n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 10:52 -0500, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > Not sure what you mean?  Which services are listening on which IP's?
> > If so, port 80 and 23 are listening at 44.68.172.2.  Both are the same
> > thing as bbs.solarpi.net and (www.|bbs.)?solarpi.net
>
> Corey;
>
> This is the bulletin:
> n1uro at n1uro:~/Documents$ cat fbbampr.txt
> ************************* EastNet Packet Amprnet Network
> ******************
> This list below is a listing of the EastNet Packet Network systems
> either
> reachable via amprnet and/or pingable on the amprnet. EastNet uses the
> following softwares:
> pc/FlexNet
> URONode
> axMail
> FBB BBS
> The EastNet Packet Amprnet Network is engineered and coordinated by
> N1URO.
> He may be reached at: n1uro at n1uro.#cct.ct.usa.noam/n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org
> Amprnet coordination is handled on a volunteer basis by: N1URO, N2NOV,
> G7LTT
> and KD4YAL. Apologies in advance if anyone was left out. EastNet in a
> nut-
> shell are territories within the U.S.A. "east" of the Mississippi River.
> pc/FlexNet uses no port as it uses IP for axip/axudp linkage over the
> amprnet. URONode's default connect port is 3694. axMail uses the
> standard
> SMTP ports 25/445(TLS) while FBB may use almost any port or may not use
> any at all. Some sites may choose to run other services such as a web
> server.
> ************************************************************
> ***************
> Connecticut:
>
> Unionville;
> 44.88.0.1 - gw.ct.ampr.org
> 44.88.0.9 - n1uro.ampr.org
> 44.88.0.10 - flexnet.n1uro.ampr.org
> 44.88.0.11 - nos.n1uro.ampr.org
> 44.88.0.12 - jnos.n1uro.ampr.org
> 44.88.0.14 - fedora.n1uro.ampr.org
> 44.88.0.20 - asterisk.n1uro.ampr.org
>
> East Hartland;
> 44.88.4.1 - k1yon.ampr.org
> 44.88.4.2 - flexnet.k1yon.ampr.org
>
> Glastonbury;
> 44.88.8.1 - w1edh.ampr.org
> 44.88.8.2 - flexnet.w1edh.ampr.org
>
> Wallingford:
> 44.88.2.1 - k1lyp.ampr.org                      # Under construction
> 44.88.2.2 - flexnet.k1lyp.ampr.org              # Due up 17 Sept-ish
>
> ====================================================================
> Massachusetts:
> Middleborough;
> 44.44.10.33 - n1xtb.ampr.org
> 44.44.10.34 - flexnet.n1xtb.ampr.org
>
> ====================================================================
> New Jersey:
> Sayerville;
> 44.64.255.225 - wb2ona.ampr.org
> 44.64.255.226 - flexnet.wb2ona.ampr.org
>
> ===================================================================
> New York:
> Cooperstown;
> 44.68.220.1 - n2kgc.ampr.org
> 44.68.220.2 - flexnet.n2kgc.ampr.org
>
> Onenta;
> 44.68.220.3 - w2rgi.ampr.org
> 44.68.220.4 - flexnet.w2rgi.ampr.org
>
> Putnam;
> 44.68.88.1 - k2put.ampr.org
> 44.68.88.2 - flexnet.k2put.ampr.org
>
> ==================================================================
> Florida:
> Melbourne;
> 44.98.16.2 - w4mlb.ampr.org                     # offline by sysop
> 44.98.16.3 - flex.w4mlb.ampr.org                # offline by sysop
> 44.98.16.249 - n4smr.ampr.org                   # offline by sysop
>
> Vero Beach;
> 44.98.16.4 - w4ot.ampr.org                      # power issues
> 44.98.16.5 - flexnet.w4ot.ampr.org              # known here
> =======================================================================
> *Other sites may exist on internet only or do not run pc/FlexNet.
> **NY sites may be in process as of this writing
>
> Last update: 2016, 09 December.
> Author: N1URO
>
> I'm not looking for specific services, just what's available via 44/8
> for ecomm purposes.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> 73 de Brian - N1URO
> email: (see above)
> Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
> Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
> Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
> Linux Amateur Radio Services
> axMail-Fax & URONode
> http://uronode.sourceforge.net
> http://axmail.sourceforge.net
> AmprNet coordinator for:
> Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
> Maryland, Massachusetts,
> New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
> Rhode Island, and Vermont.
>
>
>
>
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From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 08:18:03 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:18:03 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Mystic BBS on packet
Message-ID: <CALvFBuwPU-4Bn4Jb5x6HwU7fHZ3+iqnR68dJmnmwvZEfBTaykA@mail.gmail.com>

While I've not completely eliminated the ANSI, it by and large seems to
work fine in raw mode.  I'm gutting it out, to reduce the amount of traffic.

I'm still in the process, though.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Joe Cupano <joe at cupano.com> wrote:

> Hi Corey,
>
> Very interested in how you configured Mystic BBS to be packet accessible.
> I've had limited success in stripping out the ANSI
>
> 73,
>
> - Joe, NE2Z
>
>
>
> On 12/21/2016 08:58 AM, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > For what it's worth, I am using my allocation at this time, however, I
> > am a bubble in a sea of void :)
> >
> > I'm only looking to do IP-over-RF links with this space, however,
> > should someone make a good argument to the contrary, I'd be open to
> > doing so.
> >
> > At this time, I have a Mystic BBS answering on 44.68.172.2, my gateway
> > is 44.68.172.1.  The BBS also listens on a couple of internet
> > available IP's as well.
>
>
>
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From n2nov at n2nov.net  Fri Dec 23 08:31:17 2016
From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles Hargrove)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:31:17 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Online Nodes
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If you have a gateway entry on UCSD, then your assigned range is routable
through your public IP address.  I see KC2QHV with a subnet of 44.68.41.64/27
and a gateway address of 100.38.176.170 on UCSD.  What I do not see is a DNS
entry to resolve the kc2qhv.ampr.org domain.  That's why I said we need to
talk.

The only subnets that I see a gateway and/or DNS entries are:
44.68.20/29 - both
44.68.41/24 - both
44.68.41.64/27 - gateway only
44.68.64/24 - gateway only
44.64.84/29 - gateway only
44.68.88/27 - gateway only
44.68.100/29 - gateway only
44.68.112/27 - gateway only
44.68.204/28 - gateway only
44.68.220/28 - both

Even some of the above are not reachable.  Maybe they were never set up
or were not set up with IP encap enabled.

On Fri, December 23, 2016 7:46 am, Cryptographrix wrote:
> As I understand, since my (KC2QHV) subnet space is within N2NOV's, I should
> be connecting to his IP-IP connection for routing back to UCSD, correct?
>
> - Michael


--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org

NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

"We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
act only by permission." - Ayn Rand




From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 08:36:35 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:36:35 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Online Nodes
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Well, I'll go ahead and get my gateway set up, most likely after the
holidays.  I guess there's no reason to leave it unmanaged.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Charles Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:

> If you have a gateway entry on UCSD, then your assigned range is routable
> through your public IP address.  I see KC2QHV with a subnet of
> 44.68.41.64/27
> and a gateway address of 100.38.176.170 on UCSD.  What I do not see is a
> DNS
> entry to resolve the kc2qhv.ampr.org domain.  That's why I said we need to
> talk.
>
> The only subnets that I see a gateway and/or DNS entries are:
> 44.68.20/29 - both
> 44.68.41/24 - both
> 44.68.41.64/27 - gateway only
> 44.68.64/24 - gateway only
> 44.64.84/29 - gateway only
> 44.68.88/27 - gateway only
> 44.68.100/29 - gateway only
> 44.68.112/27 - gateway only
> 44.68.204/28 - gateway only
> 44.68.220/28 - both
>
> Even some of the above are not reachable.  Maybe they were never set up
> or were not set up with IP encap enabled.
>
> On Fri, December 23, 2016 7:46 am, Cryptographrix wrote:
> > As I understand, since my (KC2QHV) subnet space is within N2NOV's, I
> should
> > be connecting to his IP-IP connection for routing back to UCSD, correct?
> >
> > - Michael
>
>
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
> topped
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> (The work praises the man.)
>
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>
>
>
>
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From n2nov at n2nov.net  Fri Dec 23 08:38:08 2016
From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles Hargrove)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:38:08 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Mystic BBS on packet
In-Reply-To: <CALvFBuwPU-4Bn4Jb5x6HwU7fHZ3+iqnR68dJmnmwvZEfBTaykA@mail.gmail.com>
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It would be interesting to connect via IPencap to your system as my JNOS
system can handle ANSI graphics.

On Fri, December 23, 2016 8:18 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> While I've not completely eliminated the ANSI, it by and large seems to
> work fine in raw mode.  I'm gutting it out, to reduce the amount of traffic.


--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org

NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins

"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped
by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan

"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus

"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
(The work praises the man.)

"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

"We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
act only by permission." - Ayn Rand




From coreyreichle at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 11:33:04 2016
From: coreyreichle at gmail.com (Corey Reichle)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:33:04 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Mystic BBS on packet
In-Reply-To: <30e0b8759c25aa1b0acb0ec6666813d9.squirrel@host.n2nov.net>
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Just let me know what needs to get done.  I'm not entirely sure how to
IPEncap in the Linux AX25 stack, but I'm open to learning if you point me
to some docs/info.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Charles Hargrove <n2nov at n2nov.net> wrote:

> It would be interesting to connect via IPencap to your system as my JNOS
> system can handle ANSI graphics.
>
> On Fri, December 23, 2016 8:18 am, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > While I've not completely eliminated the ANSI, it by and large seems to
> > work fine in raw mode.  I'm gutting it out, to reduce the amount of
> traffic.
>
>
> --
> Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
> NYC ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
>
> NYC-ARECS/RACES Net Mon. @ 8:30PM 449.025/123.0 PL
> http://www.nyc-arecs.org and http://www.nyc-skywarn.org
>
> NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM
> on 7.036 Mhz USB/1500 hz waterfall spot; Olivia 8/500 check-ins
>
> "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls
> topped
> by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
>
> "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying
> (The work praises the man.)
>
> "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it
> provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan
>
> "We are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion: the stage where
> the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may
> act only by permission." - Ayn Rand
>
>
>
>
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From n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org  Tue Dec 27 11:47:18 2016
From: n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org (Brian)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:47:18 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Mystic BBS on packet
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Message-ID: <1482857238.30184.1.camel@n1uro>

Corey;

On Tue, 2016-12-27 at 11:33 -0500, Corey Reichle wrote:
> Just let me know what needs to get done.  I'm not entirely sure how to
> IPEncap in the Linux AX25 stack, but I'm open to learning if you point
> me to some docs/info.
> 
https://n1uro.ampr.org/linuxconf/dotun.html


-- 

73 de Brian - N1URO
email: (see above)
Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
Linux Amateur Radio Services
axMail-Fax & URONode
http://uronode.sourceforge.net
http://axmail.sourceforge.net
AmprNet coordinator for:
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
Maryland, Massachusetts, 
New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, 
Rhode Island, and Vermont.
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From cryptographrix at gmail.com  Wed Dec 28 13:46:13 2016
From: cryptographrix at gmail.com (Cryptographrix)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:46:13 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Mystic BBS on packet
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Message-ID: <CAPPYGuyRRjw4iLXPSU5JHS9ohqG75J-PcFyB0aYbcY+j1XFuzA@mail.gmail.com>

Brian,

Quick question - N2NOV's allocation is 44.68.41.0/24 and mine (KC2QHV) is
44.68.41.64/27, which puts my /27 within his /24.

Should I be tunneling back to UCSD, or should N2NOV's node be routing my
/27?

Thank you.

- Michael



On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Brian <n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org> wrote:

> Corey;
>
> On Tue, 2016-12-27 at 11:33 -0500, Corey Reichle wrote:
> > Just let me know what needs to get done.  I'm not entirely sure how to
> > IPEncap in the Linux AX25 stack, but I'm open to learning if you point
> > me to some docs/info.
> >
> https://n1uro.ampr.org/linuxconf/dotun.html
>
>
> --
>
> 73 de Brian - N1URO
> email: (see above)
> Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
> Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
> Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
> Linux Amateur Radio Services
> axMail-Fax & URONode
> http://uronode.sourceforge.net
> http://axmail.sourceforge.net
> AmprNet coordinator for:
> Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
> Maryland, Massachusetts,
> New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
> Rhode Island, and Vermont.
>
>
>
>
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From n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org  Wed Dec 28 14:00:42 2016
From: n1uro at n1uro.ampr.org (Brian)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:00:42 -0500
Subject: [HamGateNY] Mystic BBS on packet
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Message-ID: <1482951642.31318.37.camel@n1uro>

Hello Michael;

On Wed, 2016-12-28 at 13:46 -0500, Cryptographrix wrote:

> 
> Quick question - N2NOV's allocation is 44.68.41.0/24 and mine (KC2QHV)
> is 44.68.41.64/27, which puts my /27 within his /24.
> Should I be tunneling back to UCSD, or should N2NOV's node be routing
> my /27?

After verifying this on the amprnet portal, Charles has the full /24
going to his gateway which includes yours. This actually is easier for
you. Two things need to happen:

1) you set policy routing through route rules and a secondary policy
route table to default to his commercial IP via tunl0 (assuming that's
your tunnel interface)

2) Charles needs to add a route to your /27 block via your commercial
IP.

I do this for Jean VE2PKT in Montreal since his ISP limits him to 1
ipencap path, and he's asked me to host his block.

PoC:
tra
FEDORA:N1URO-12} Executing command...
what IP or HOSTName do you wish to trace? ve2pkt
Please wait while we trace to ve2pkt.
traceroute to ve2pkt (44.135.49.2), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  n1uro.ampr.org (44.88.0.9)  19.427 ms
 2  gw.ct.ampr.org (44.88.0.1)  21.412 ms
 3  linux.ve2pkt.ampr.org (44.135.49.2)  72.456 ms
Tracing complete.
URONode tracer v1.3 - TraceRoute utility by N1URO.
Goodbye.
FEDORA:N1URO-12} Welcome back.


-- 

73 de Brian - N1URO
email: (see above)
Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
Linux Amateur Radio Services
axMail-Fax & URONode
http://uronode.sourceforge.net
http://axmail.sourceforge.net
AmprNet coordinator for:
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
Maryland, Massachusetts, 
New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, 
Rhode Island, and Vermont.
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