From n2nov at n2nov.net Tue Jan 11 07:04:06 2022 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 07:04:06 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] What is HamGateNNE Message-ID: <84ed8c9b-514f-3168-bd52-053f21224a0d@n2nov.net> Welcome to your HamGate mailing list for all things RF digital. There are HamGate mailing lists for various areas of the Northeast from Maine to Maryland based on activity/allocations: HamGateNNE (VT, NH, ME) HamGateMA HamGateSNE (CT, RI) HamGateNY HamGateNJ HamGatePA HamGateMDE (MD, DE) This includes 44Net TCP/IP allocations, packet radio networking, various BBS flavors (BPQ, FBB, Flex, JNOS, Xnet, Xrouter, UROnode, etc), APRS, digital voice repeaters, etc. Basically anything that routes a message from one system or area to another. By keeping the mailing list limited to a particular area, it allows neighboring sysops the opportunity to get to know each other and work together. There are plenty of other mailing lists that are specific to a mode or flavor of software, but very little can be found that is more local. Our goal is to have every type of system share links and ideas to effectively move traffic (personal mail, bulletins, Radiograms, etc) in an organized way that is totally agnostic to the software and hardware being used. We strive to be forward looking without leaving anyone behind. We all have different strengths and weaknesses, but we can all help someone else to join in and participate. If you have a particular tech background that can help, we need to hear from you. A user account was set up for you on this mailing list based on your having a 44Net allocation now or at one time, a recommendation by a fellow sysop or you asked to join. This mailing list is public and open to all. You can unsubscribe at anytime as there will be a monthly reminder sent to you with your system generated password. As an introduction, my name is Charles Hargrove (N2NOV) and I have been involved with packet since the early 90s, set up the N2NOV JNOS BBS in 1997, founded the NY-NBEMS and USeast-NBEMS nets on HF in 2011 for using FLdigi modes for EmComm and radiogram messaging. I was the EC for Staten Island (NYC), DEC for NYC from 1999 to late 2003 (included Y2K, 9/11-WTC and the 2003 Blackout). In late 2003 the active members and leadership of NYC ARES went independent and formed the NYC Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Service for EmComm training and public service. I am deeply involved with Radio Relay International and maintain their website and traffic net database. I have been the 44Net Coordinator for NY State since 2014. Last week I was asked to take over 44Net coordination for the states that N1URO controlled after he suddenly passed away. I hope that together we can keep things going forward, help those who want to get involved, reactivate those who fell by the wayside over the years and build out a resilient RF network that will support any outage or overload in our various states. State emergency management agencies are looking for this resilience and many here are looking to do just that. Let's keep ALL of the lines of communication open between us. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From n2nov at n2nov.net Sat Jan 15 13:18:15 2022 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:18:15 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Fwd: Packet in NH In-Reply-To: <1b0ec501-7d57-6914-cb3a-d5aba72ce15f@n2nov.net> References: <1b0ec501-7d57-6914-cb3a-d5aba72ce15f@n2nov.net> Message-ID: <611ce423-903f-101b-bb08-0e08f804431d@n2nov.net> Any comments or ideas from those in NH on this list? -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Packet in NH Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:14:44 -0500 From: Charles J. Hargrove To: David Colter CC: Jay Taft, K1EHZ Regarding the UHF situation, did anyone consider the 223.420-223.700 range? We use that range for regional LANS in NY and NJ. As for the movement of messages and bulletins in/out of NH, what is the solution? On 1/15/2022 1:01 PM, David Colter wrote: > Hi Charles - other than some simple digis and Winlink gateways around the Manchester area and a few other places, there is no real network anymore. It used to cover the state, but because it was backboned on UHF, we were forced to shut it all down when the Air Force's PAVEPAWS radar went online on the Cape. The two main hubs were a ham's hilltop home near Concord (he passed away), and the old State EOC on Fruit St. All that equipment was apparently mothballed in a garage somewhere and we have no access to it. Jay, K1EHZ (copied here) can likely tell you more about what currently exists. My own packet gear is also mothballed, and I'm not sure I'd recall how to use it after 20 years. > > When it comes to emcomm though, I'm not a proponent of relying on packet networks, or anything that relies on infrastructure in the affected area, including HSMM networks. They require lots of man-hours to set up and maintain, take a lot of skill to set up and use, and the stuff we can afford is vastly more fragile than what the commercial boys install. Doesn't make sense, especially when we have so few active and younger members. When we should be using our limited resources to move actual messages, we'd be out there trying to restore our damaged equipment while the commercial boys are doing the same thing. > 73, > Dave Colter WA1ZCN > ASEC, Training - NH-ARES > www.nh-ares.org > Hamshack Hotline: Ext. 4806 > DHS SHARES: NNA1DC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles J. Hargrove > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 11:58 AM > To: Dave Colter WA1ZCN > Subject: Packet in NH > > Could you point me to a resource of various packet nodes and systems in NH? > Since N1URO passed away last week, I have been asked to cover the 44Net coordination in New England. I am looking to update the old packet maps from a decade ago showing systems, SSIDs, frequencies, speeds and routes. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From n2nov at n2nov.net Mon Jan 24 13:26:33 2022 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:26:33 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Basics of Using 44Net Message-ID: Here are some things to get you started on using 44Net (not just packet): from 2012 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMI9YSM0mzY from 2018 - https://youtu.be/OxsmGaFZ2MM?t=49 from 2019 - https://youtu.be/s4PHUJbLtMk?t=8 The best place to get help with various configurations to get 44Net to work with your equipment is to subscribe to the 44Net mailing list and ask there. There is a deep pool of people with various experiences to help. The Wiki has many articles https://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Main_Page and registration for the mailing list is also at the AMPR.org portal https://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/44Net_mailing_list -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From n2nov at n2nov.net Tue Jan 25 10:23:03 2022 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:23:03 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Why DNS Records After Creating Public Gateway Message-ID: After receiving your allocation, setting up your public gateway address and linking your subnet to it, some are wondering why the DNS records for them need to be set up in the database by the state coordinator. > What is the DNS on your side for? > What is the typical DNS entry usually used? A typical DNS will always have your callsign followed by ampr.org. Anything before your callsign typically describes what is is used for. Some examples could be: n2nov.ampr.org gw.n2nov.ampr.org 220.n2nov.ampr.org webcam.n2nov.ampr.org While all allocation holders are part of a "mesh" by virtue that their subnet is linked to a public gateway, connections between us do not hit UCSD at all. Any use of the "mesh" IPIP encap table locally is via the AMPR-RIPD program to set up iptables as opposed to manually updating them. The encap table is broadcast every five minutes to anyone in the public gateway table with at least one DNS record. I personally use the DOTUN.SH script to set up the variables for setting up a tunnel on my Linux box, call the AMPR-RIPD program to accept the encap broadcast and set up the iptables. When someone is coming from outside of 44Net, they will enter through UCSD and the DNS table along with the gateways list will be used to send them to their destination. Your local security structure will expose certain ports or require passwords. My JNOS bbs has certain ports open for things like telnet, chat, ftp, POP3 and all others are set to deny entry. I then have each user's callsign in a table with their password. Anyone not in the table is allowed only the minimum permissions of reading messages or sending a message to the sysop, but no message creation or node hopping. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From n2nov at n2nov.net Fri Jan 28 10:57:11 2022 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:57:11 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Responses Needed ASAP Before Purging Records Message-ID: <6b2b6f17-d5f4-e4ef-4e8d-4f1d6b988669@n2nov.net> In an effort to clarify and cleanup the databases, I have been reaching out to all of the stations with either a 44Net allocation or stale DNS records since January 11th. I have heard back from many of you and I have made note of your current status. Starting February 1st (next Tuesday), I will be purging the stale DNS records and the 44Net allocations with no public gateways and/or no DNS records of the following stations if I have not heard from them by then. If you know the following stations, then please reach out to them and let them know to contact me ASAP via email or at 917-991-0356 any evening or all day Sunday and Monday. NH: KA1VGM W1WRA NA1T KC1AWV ME: KC1ETT KC1NQW KC1JQV WA1KLI N1DOT AC1DI W1YA KC1FOS -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan From jwhite14 at maine.rr.com Fri Jan 28 12:38:58 2022 From: jwhite14 at maine.rr.com (Jimzy) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:38:58 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] GATEWAY Message-ID: Hi Charles I registered my info. Thank you for your email Jimmy White Sent from Mail for Windows -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite14 at maine.rr.com Fri Jan 28 17:31:28 2022 From: jwhite14 at maine.rr.com (Jim) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:31:28 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] GATEWAY In-Reply-To: <20220128181932.KJPS3774.p-mtain011.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net@p-impin011.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net> References: <20220128181932.KJPS3774.p-mtain011.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net@p-impin011.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net> Message-ID: <6D12405B-A923-4357-B95D-065341C8C27F@maine.rr.com> Hi Charles Could not locate my ip network 44.118.2.48 / 29 ? Not sure if it has been deleted? Any help will be appreciated Thank you Jimmy KC1ETT Sent from my iPad > On Jan 28, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Jimzy wrote: > > ? > Hi Charles > I registered my info. > Thank you for your email > Jimmy White > > Sent from Mail for Windows > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From default at eastron.com Sat Jan 29 09:02:18 2022 From: default at eastron.com (catch all) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:02:18 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Responses Needed ASAP Before Purging Records In-Reply-To: <6b2b6f17-d5f4-e4ef-4e8d-4f1d6b988669@n2nov.net> References: <6b2b6f17-d5f4-e4ef-4e8d-4f1d6b988669@n2nov.net> Message-ID: Hello, I'm with the UMaine Amateur Radio Club, W1YA. While we haven't had a lot of use of our 44 allocation, I may try to get some students to start playing around with it soon. Thanks. Rick, AA1PJ On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 10:57 AM Charles J. Hargrove wrote: > In an effort to clarify and cleanup the databases, I have been reaching out > to all of the stations with either a 44Net allocation or stale DNS records > since January 11th. I have heard back from many of you and I have made note > of your current status. Starting February 1st (next Tuesday), I will be > purging the stale DNS records and the 44Net allocations with no public > gateways and/or no DNS records of the following stations if I have not > heard from them by then. If you know the following stations, then please > reach out to them and let them know to contact me ASAP via email or at > 917-991-0356 any evening or all day Sunday and Monday. > > NH: > KA1VGM > W1WRA > NA1T > KC1AWV > > ME: > KC1ETT > KC1NQW > KC1JQV > WA1KLI > N1DOT > AC1DI > W1YA > KC1FOS > > -- > Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV > NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. > > NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL > ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM > NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM > http://www.nyc-arecs.org > > NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM > on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 > > "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls > topped > by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan > > "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus > > "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying > (The work praises the man.) > > "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it > provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ai2q at roadrunner.com Sat Jan 29 14:39:52 2022 From: ai2q at roadrunner.com (Radio AI2Q) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 19:39:52 +0000 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Responses Needed ASAP Before Purging Records In-Reply-To: References: <6b2b6f17-d5f4-e4ef-4e8d-4f1d6b988669@n2nov.net> Message-ID: FB Rick, We're active 24/7 with KB1VPD-1 and N1QX-1 across town in Kennebunk, all of us using TCP/IP all-UI frames. No "connections." Join us! Watsa? Vy 73, AI2Q, Alex On 1/29/2022 2:02 PM, catch all wrote: > Hello, I'm with the UMaine Amateur Radio Club,?W1YA. While we haven't > had a lot of use of our 44 allocation, I may try to get some students > to start playing around with it soon. Thanks. > > Rick, AA1PJ > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 10:57 AM Charles J. Hargrove > wrote: > > In an effort to clarify and cleanup the databases, I have been > reaching out > to all of the stations with either a 44Net allocation or stale DNS > records > since January 11th. I have heard back from many of you and I have > made note > of your current status. Starting February 1st (next Tuesday), I > will be > purging the stale DNS records and the 44Net allocations with no public > gateways and/or no DNS records of the following stations if I have not > heard from them by then. If you know the following stations, then > please > reach out to them and let them know to contact me ASAP via email or at > 917-991-0356 any evening or all day Sunday and Monday. > > NH: > KA1VGM > W1WRA > NA1T > KC1AWV > > ME: > KC1ETT > KC1NQW > KC1JQV > WA1KLI > N1DOT > AC1DI > W1YA > KC1FOS > > -- > Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV > NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. > > NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL > ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM > NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM > http://www.nyc-arecs.org > > NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM > on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 > > "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the > walls > topped > by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald > Reagan > > "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus > > "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying > (The work praises the man.) > > "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many > services it > provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan > -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n2nov at n2nov.net Sat Jan 29 15:41:03 2022 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:41:03 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Setting Up a Public Gateway and DNS Records Message-ID: <5b3473f8-54e4-b356-44a1-3497320cd689@n2nov.net> A common thread that I am seeing is that people don't know about setting up their Public Gateway entry and/or submitting DNS record entries for the DNS servers around the world. Both of these things are needed to route packets to and from your devices on your 44Net allocation. Here is a quick two page PDF tutorial that shows you how to do these things. The gateway entry is done by you in your AMPR Portal account and the DNS records are emailed to me for submission to the DNS database. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: GatewayAndDNS.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 211309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From n2nov at n2nov.net Mon Jan 31 11:55:53 2022 From: n2nov at n2nov.net (Charles J. Hargrove) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:55:53 -0500 Subject: [HamGateNNE] Welcome N2KGC, President of Eastnet Message-ID: <9513248d-9489-b8dd-f7b0-b50fe739f33d@n2nov.net> Brian Webster (N2KGC) is the President of Eastnet and replace N1URO last year. I have added him to this mailing list as there are UROnode, Flexnet, Xnet systems across the northeast. Conversations with him over many years shows that he thinks along the same way as I do. The network needs to be agnostic to the software as long as we can talk to each other, route to each other and pass along messages to each other. I am sure that he will jump in soon to introduce himself and get some interesting conversations going as we look forward to the future of networking and not stay stuck in the 90s. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM http://www.nyc-arecs.org NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan